School Daze question.

[ProPhetic1]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think my interpretation of NPHC groups, or classification, would have to be something more like "black greek life," because it is so distinctive from most IFC and NPC groups I've been around. If they want to term my way of greek life "white greek life" they can, although I imagine we've been at it longer. It is all based on perspective, so my interpretation of what greek life is need not offend anyone, as it is not intended to do so.

Most of the NPHC groups have been around for close to 100 yrs now. Im not sure how long your org has been around but there is a lot of tradition with NPHC groups as well.

[shinerbock]

I imagine they do have plenty of history and tradition.

[Xidelt]

Don't imagine....KNOW that they do.

[shinerbock]

No thanks, I'll just continue to imagine. The functioning and history of NPHC groups isnt of overwhelming interest to me anyhow.

[Xidelt]

The "elitism" that you attempt to show in your posts often comes through as provincial "ignorance."

[f8nacn]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

The functioning and history of NPHC groups isnt of overwhelming interest to me anyhow.

It's amazing how racisim and elitism forms itself into subtle arenas. ...To change your opinion and/or increase your knowledge so that you can EXPOSE yourself to something other than you've seen, why don't you actually try doing some research....each organization in the NPHC has a NATIONAL website with their history...try taking a look. I may not be interested in joining a NPC or IFC organization, but that doesn't stop me from learning what they are about and what they do!

Ignorance is just a small word to describe your view/opinion.

[shinerbock]

Yes you're correct, I'm ignorant and racist. The fact that you accuse me as such simply displays to me that you are not only ignorant, but incapable of rational thought. I realize that literacy may not come naturally to you, but if you glance above you'll notice that I said I believed those organizations did have plenty of history. I'm not in them, so I wouldn't know exactly what that entails. Doing some research wouldn't really help either, seeing as my Kappa Sig friends claim they were founded in Biblical times, so I don't really accept overly much that I don't experience for myself. Also, I really don't care that much. I have other things to concern myself than extensive research of groups I'm not that concerned with. I'm sure they will continue on just fine without my interest. Sure, you can call that ideology "ignorance," but if not blanketly accepting what I'm given is "ignorance" then I'm proud to be termed as such. How exactly does this make me racist? Because when I think greek I think IFC and NPC? Well then fine, call me racist. I'm also a Republican and against Affirmative Action, so why don't you go ahead and tack on bigot to your unfounded classification of my personality. The kind of comments you've displayed remind me of the intellectual brilliance shown through comments like "George Bush hates black people." Keep up the good work.

[f8nacn]

To respond to your last statement...

For your information, I am very much a supporter of our current Commander-in-Chief, President George Bush! And no, I am not in the group of African-Americans/Blacks who have made and/or necessarily agree/disagree with the statement "George Bush hates black people".

But to the issue at hand, my point was before stating that only IFC and NPC organizations are the only TRUE greek organizations, whether it is of interest to you or not, RESEARCH will show you that NPHC organizations are very much TRUE greek organizations and do more than just party and socialize. As you have mentioned, your opinions were formed based on what you were exposed to. I'm asking you/more like presenting to you, go beyond your exposure level...branch out, research....That will help you in your irrational thought process!

You don't have to become a part of an organization to inquire about their activities, their service, their history. Of course, in all things there are some things that will not be available to the public...however, there is no doubt in my mind that they wouldn't help you see "the big picture", eliminating the clouds that stand in front of you.

For your information check out the founding dates for the NPHC organizations:
Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Cornell University, 1906
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Howard University, 1908
Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Indiana University, 1911
Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Howard University, 1911
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Howard University, 1913
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Howard University, 1914
Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Howard University, 1920
Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Butler University, 1922
Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Morgan State University, 1963

Role models, community activists, entertainers, politicians, relationship builders, life changers, physicians, lawyers, etc....all have emerged through the influence that members of these organizations have had and will continue to have.

So my question to you...what makes the NPHC organizations any less GREEK than IFC/NPC organizations?

[Tom Earp]

Why is it when someone makes a personel statement about not knowing anything about a specfic GLO grouping, the Race/Bigot card is thrown on the table.

I am always amazed by who throws it out first. Well, not really.

There is a difference, ideas, and thoughts of different GLOs will vary.

Congratulations on many NPHC GLOs who have been around for @ 100 Years.

But, some of the IFC/PHC GLOs have been around longer.

Now why dont some of you tell me about those histories.

Tit for tat as it were!

[BlACKROSE]

. The kind of comments you've displayed remind me of the intellectual brilliance shown through comments like "George Bush hates black people." Keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]

Well I am not sure were you are going with this Great Statement for I do not believe that the good old boy George Bush hates black people at all I feel that he like you are uninterested in the trails of black people and yet you shouldn't be see black people have overcome a many of different attacks on there character lack of or other wise and have continue to prevail see I was not upset at the thought that our President hates us for why would he. He doesn't care to learn enough about us as a whole to know if he hates or loves us I mean his MOTHER felt that the homeless children and dying elderly were happy to be left in the Astro Dome where there was no running water or working restrooms after waiting in water for five days, but being that he was raised to not be concern why would I believe that he had enough interest to hate, I feel that you also may being raised to be concerned on what you couldn't possibly understand!!!!!

[GIJANE]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Yes you're correct, I'm ignorant and racist. The fact that you accuse me as such simply displays to me that you are not only ignorant, but incapable of rational thought. I realize that literacy may not come naturally to you, but if you glance above you'll notice that I said I believed those organizations did have plenty of history. I'm not in them, so I wouldn't know exactly what that entails. Doing some research wouldn't really help either, seeing as my Kappa Sig friends claim they were founded in Biblical times, so I don't really accept overly much that I don't experience for myself. Also, I really don't care that much. I have other things to concern myself than extensive research of groups I'm not that concerned with. I'm sure they will continue on just fine without my interest. Sure, you can call that ideology "ignorance," but if not blanketly accepting what I'm given is "ignorance" then I'm proud to be termed as such. How exactly does this make me racist? Because when I think greek I think IFC and NPC? Well then fine, call me racist. I'm also a Republican and against Affirmative Action, so why don't you go ahead and tack on bigot to your unfounded classification of my personality. The kind of comments you've displayed remind me of the intellectual brilliance shown through comments like "George Bush hates black people." Keep up the good work.

You need to calm down and have a drink or two...It's ok for you not to be concerned with NPHC function and history. However, there is plenty of info on the web for those who wish to know our illustrious histories and so forth. We have been around for a long time and warrant respect. There are Masons and Eastern Stars that think sororities and fraternities are a joke because they have been around since before Christ and they have a right to that opinion. You are not a racist, so stop acting retarded!

[Shortfuse]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

No thanks, I'll just continue to imagine. The functioning and history of NPHC groups isnt of overwhelming interest to me anyhow.

Clearly it was because if it wasn't you would not have posted on them.

IFCs don't interest me in the least and that's why you'll never hear me comment on one.