Stop-and-Frisk law...WTF?

[Mizeree I2K]

This is bullshit and racial profiling at its best. This isn't unconstitutional?

Stop-and-Frisk law

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

This isn't unconstitutional?

According to a US District Court judge last week, it is unconstitutional, at least as currently practiced. I think Bloomburg has said the City will appeal.

[DrPhil]

Yeah this is dumb.

[Kevin]

Searches without any probable cause at all?

--seems legit.

[DrPhil]

Just in case there is a misunderstanding...Kevin is being sarcastic.

[PersistentDST]

Yeah it's been happening all through NYC! And it's not just happening to minorities. I've read a few articles about young white students being frisked. It's awful.

[PersistentDST]

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

That is what happens when you have 500 murders a year and 90% of them are committed by one group.

Why don't you complain about the murders?

Ahhhh, a racist, lying troll. Cool beans!

[Psi U MC Vito]

I was wondering when Max would return.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I was wondering when Max would return.

THANK YOU! I couldn't remember his name. I had a hunch it was him and I just could NOT remember. I was like, "it's that racist troll...the one who always calls Philadelphia "Philla"...he's always asking people if we're scared of the truth and what not..." But his name would just not come to me.

Thanks

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

Why do you get more upset with enforcement of laws than you do with the people who break the laws?

You mean the police when they perform warrentless stops on people? There are ways to lower crime rates without resorting to unconstitutional methods. All programs like stop and frisk do is make it so that minority groups do not trust the police, and are thus less likely to report crimes.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

No what im saying?

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

They need probably cause. . . .

No what im saying? . . . .

In the history of the planet, has their EVER been . . . .

Your stupid is showing again, Max. Glad that education is working out for you.


For the new GCers, this is just the latest incarnation of a repeatedly-banned poster originally known as madmax. Saying that his posts are a broken record would almost as big an understatement as saying that they are unimaginative and tiresome.

No need to feed the troll—he'll likely be gone soon enough.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Just because I want to put off contracts, I'm going to respond to this.

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

I am waiting for you to tell me YOUR methods for lowering crime. Do you plan on organizing another "stop the violence" rally?

There are many tools that can be used. Gun buybacks, community policing, and yes strong social pressure. There are a lot of factors involved in creating violence, and a lot of factors needed to reduce it. One of those is the popular media, which is overwhelmingly controlled by upper class Caucasians and targeted at middle class Caucasians.

Tell me ANY method that works for YOUR people and we will use it.

You mean well educated middle class Americans? Because that is what I am. Caucasian does not always mean affluent, just as non-Caucasian does not always mean impoverished.

And to address your other two points, I will say this. First while 500 deaths a year (which is an inaccurate number) is a tragedy, compared to population, it only works out to about 6.3 per 100K people, which is lower then many other cities. Second, stop and frisk requires reasonable suspension which is actually even a lower standard then probable cause, which is part of the problem. If you look at the number, the majority of people stopped are Hispanic or Black, yet the majority of seizures occur for Caucasian suspects.

Your main disadvantage is bad parenting.

Shit. I can't imagine how far I would have gone by now if I have only had good parenting. I guess being a first generation college graduate isn't enough.

[Tom Earp]

Have any of you walked in the shoes of either those who stopped them or those who were stopped?

Been there as a COP. Started in 1969 and that is when riots started. Worked in the North end, namely Black area. Had no problem as I got along with the people.
Worked Western area, mostly white area.
I stopped people when I saw a law broken, I didn't care who they were. They screwed up, I went after the, period.

But yes some others were not me!

If a certain group causes problems then that skews guys minds. It boild down, certain groups be on guard or maybe get shot/killed.

Have any of you been shot? I have, guess what it hurt, DAH!

[badgeguy]

Originally Posted by CrashTestBarack

Why do you get more upset with enforcement of laws than you do with the people who break the laws?

That is why your neighbohrood is a ghetto.

No what im saying?

Thanks crashtest guy for making my posts seem normal.....

And I definitely think you wasted your money on whatever education you received.....

[DrPhil]

Madmax is an intentionally amusing, wannabe offensive, troll.

Badgeguy's just someone who is clueless and unthought on certain topics yet he keeps typing about those topics.