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Old 12-16-2008, 11:50 AM
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Whoa, DS, it's time to take a break. This part of your post has a definite Earpish quality to it. Take a breath and a step back from the keyboard until it passes...
Not even...it's a perfectly acceptable question to ask.

And given to how most of the country (the rest of the world, really) feels about all that's been going on for the past years since this war has started, it's an acceptable opinion to have in asking that question.

It's almost akin to a conquering general taking one last look at a vanquished neighbor that he is leaving worse off than he did when he started.

Seriously think about it.

Me personally, there is really no good reason that I can think of that he needs to be there at this point in time.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:55 AM
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Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.
Are you even serious? Saddam was executed in Iraq (12/30/06), and convicted by the Iraqi Special Tribunal for the murder of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail in 1982. We captured Saddam and turned him over to the people he terrorized, so that they could try him. At least two lawyers defending Saddam were murdered in cold bold by Iraqis. We also found mass graves in Iraq. I think you are way out of bounds. Second, you are un-American for wishing that your president was killed by a shoe. We are privileged enough to be able to say what we feel in the United States, but you have over stepped this right. Disliking a President and talking negatively about him is one thing, and you have done a complete other. Stop making yourself, your country, and your fraternity look like crap with your ridiculous comments.

Don't worry, the Savior known as Obama will be here soon to cure not only America's problems, but the entire world's. I can’t wait until 2012, when people realize that Obama is a politician. He is a politician that said what he had to, to get elected. There is no possible way he can deliver on everything he promised. Get ready for disappointment. His voting record does not back up the promises he has made. I wish Obama well, and wish that he can deliver on all of his promises but at the same time, I am a realist. You should never wish harm on our President, not matter how you believe he has performed. No matter what you think of Bush’s policy, he the leader of our country and you should think about that before making such ridiculous remarks.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:59 AM
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It's almost akin to a conquering general taking one last look at a vanquished neighbor that he is leaving worse off than he did when he started.
That is an unsubstantiated interpretation of it.

This is why theorizing about why Bush went to Iraq is a separate issue.

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Me personally, there is really no good reason that I can think of that he needs to be there at this point in time.
Maybe he went to make a pitcher of Kool-Aid. So? He ended up getting a shoe pitcher. Whackawhackawhacka...dumdumdum...chhhhhhh......
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:03 PM
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Are you even serious? Saddam was executed in Iraq (12/30/06), and convicted by the Iraqi Special Tribunal for the murder of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail in 1982. We captured Saddam and turned him over to the people he terrorized, so that they could try him. At least two lawyers defending Saddam were murdered in cold bold by Iraqis. We also found mass graves in Iraq. I think you are way out of bounds. Second, you are un-American for wishing that your president was killed by a shoe. We are privileged enough to be able to say what we feel in the United States, but you have over stepped this right. Disliking a President and talking negatively about him is one thing, and you have done a complete other. Stop making yourself, your country, and your fraternity look like crap with your ridiculous comments.

Don't worry, the Savior known as Obama will be here soon to cure not only America's problems, but the entire world's. I can’t wait until 2012, when people realize that Obama is a politician. He is a politician that said what he had to, to get elected. There is no possible way he can deliver on everything he promised. Get ready for disappointment. His voting record does not back up the promises he has made. I wish Obama well, and wish that he can deliver on all of his promises but at the same time, I am a realist. You should never wish harm on our President, not matter how you believe he has performed. No matter what you think of Bush’s policy, he the leader of our country and you should think about that before making such ridiculous remarks.

Are you done with your tantrum?

Ask your sitting president if he violated the Geneva Convention as it relates to reprisals.

(Don't be surprised should he say 'No')

You have a wonderful day!
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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That is an unsubstantiated interpretation of it.

This is why theorizing about why Bush went to Iraq is a separate issue.



Maybe he went to make a pitcher of Kool-Aid. So? He ended up getting a shoe pitcher. Whackawhackawhacka...dumdumdum...chhhhhhh......
Now mid you, this was a secret visit also. If this incident had never happened, we would have never known that Bush was there.

Something else to think about.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:05 PM
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Nothing I haven't said before, some people just refuse to listen.



How so? She asked a valid question.

One that NO ONE here has bothered to answer.

WHY WAS Bush in Iraq?

Gloating at his handiwork!

While you all are so busy being pissed off at me, look back in history?

Has any president EVER gone INTO (on many occasions) a warzone?

Has any of our presidents traveled to Vietnam while fighting was going on?

Did our presidents go to Germany while fighting was going on?

Hell did Bush SENIOR go to Iraq while in office?

If I am wrong then folks, by all means please correct me, but I do not recall ever off the top of my head any of our presidents traveling INTO an area in which we were actively engaged in a war except this one and someone wants to know why and you think it's a bad question?

Bruh, please.



I am still waiting to see the memo that the Iraqi people sent that asked us to bring them a nice piping hot mug of democracy to them along with a 6 pack of religious and cultural tolerance...hehe. I won't hold my breath.

The difference between this and other wars, is that we were fighting against the country's government in every other war. Right now, we are fighting WITH the Iraqi government against insurgents in Iraq. Seriously, if you are going to get into a political arguement please know your facts.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:10 PM
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Now mid you, this was a secret visit also.
Correct, supposedly, the First Lady is one of the relative few who knew.

He quietly left the White House in the evening while his guests were off to bed. The guests were to awake to the surprise that the man they were doing the Electric Slide with the night before is now in Iraq on a final visit. Instead, they awoke to the surprise that he was in Iraq and had a shoe thrown at him.

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If this incident had never happened, we would have never known that Bush was there.
Untrue. The reporters were there in order to...........

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Something else to think about.
You can think about that.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:10 PM
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Now mid you, this was a secret visit also. If this incident had never happened, we would have never known that Bush was there.

Something else to think about.
The secrecy was likely a security measure because as you have continually noted, he was entering a "war zone". And so the roomful of reporters were all sworn to secrecy, you think? Not one news story would have come out about his farewell visit after he was safely out of country?


ETA: aw, I miss our "jinx" moments like this, Chaos!
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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The difference between this and other wars, is that we were fighting against the country's government in every other war. Right now, we are fighting WITH the Iraqi government against insurgents in Iraq. Seriously, if you are going to get into a political arguement please know your facts.
Yeah and your point is what?

answer the question since you wanna throw your hat into the "Whack a Daemon" role...

WHY. WAS. BUSH. THERE. ?

Now think about what you just said. The war didn't start with us fighting insurgents. It started with us overthrowing the current regime under Saddam Hussein when we STILL should have been seeking out Bin Ladin for 9/11 but we just so happened to find an excuse (WMDs remember those things? vaporware we never found?) to go in and attack.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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ETA: aw, I miss our "jinx" moments like this, Chaos!
Strangerrrrrs in the nighhhhhht......
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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Are you done with your tantrum?

Ask your sitting president if he violated the Geneva Convention as it relates to reprisals.

(Don't be surprised should he say 'No')

You have a wonderful day!
So now you are changing subjects. If Bush violated the Geneva Convention, why isn't he being tried for it? Please give me your concrete evidence for his violations. Being that you were probably in Iraq to witness things that happened. Stop talking trash that you don't know. I bet you can't even tell me what party controls the congress. Are you one of the people on this video? http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
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WHY. WAS. BUSH. THERE. ?
Maybe we can get a Bush sockpuppet to answer the question. Or I'm sure Chuck Norris knows.

Then will you shut up or will you continually drift off into the abyss of diversionary tactics? LOL.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:15 PM
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Correct, supposedly, the First Lady is one of the relative few who knew.

He quietly left the White House in the evening while his guests were off to bed. The guests were to awake to the surprise that the man they were doing the Electric Slide with the night before is now in Iraq on a final visit. Instead, they awoke to the surprise that he was in Iraq and had a shoe thrown at him.



Untrue. The reporters were there in order to...........



You can think about that.
See what I mean about AKA Moent's question being valid altho a lesser point?
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:16 PM
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Are you done with your tantrum?

Ask your sitting president if he violated the Geneva Convention as it relates to reprisals.

(Don't be surprised should he say 'No')

You have a wonderful day!
You edited your post to attempt more smartassyness and condescendingness. You suck at it, though, so give it a rest.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:16 PM
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