Kanye West Interrupts Taylor Swift's Speech at MTV VMA's

[SydneyK]

I didn't see the VMA, and have seen only the brief clip of the incident. I hadn't really planned to comment on this because it means so little to me. However, I just had to say something when I got to this...

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

His behavior deserves no excuse, but it's not like he's never done it before-it's Kanye being Kanye.

Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Ugh. This line always bothers me. If his behavior doesn't deserve an excuse, then why are you giving him one? Just because he's Kanye doesn't mean he is exempt from basic manners. Because he's done it before we're supposed to just nod him along saying, "Oh, it's just Kanye being Kanye." Please.

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

iDied @ the bolded

I don't want to come off looking like a Kanye groupie, but people are making this into more than what it should be. Kanye has interrupted awards shows before. He's spoken his mind at inopportune moments. This is not new (and not even the worst thing he's done). People are acting like they've never seen this from him before.

Plus, they're talking about how he picked on this "poor, defenseless little girl." Taylor is 19 and in the music industry. I'm sure she can fend for herself.

[Xanthus]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

It'd be like giving OJ a pass if he kills someone [else] because, well, it's just OJ being OJ, and it's not like he's never done it before. (Yes, I understand that what Kanye did is in a completely different ballpark than what OJ got away with. I'm just using it as an example of why "Person X is just being Person X" is an illogical justification for anything.)

OJ's a douche. I know everyone is on a different topic, but back to Kanye West for a second. I don't agree with what he did, but give the guy a break. He was shit faced. How many of us have been shit faced before and acted in a way we regretted later?

[srmom]

I like alot of Kanye West's songs (even though I'm an old lady - kids introduced his music to me), but he lost his "shine" for me long before the Taylor Swift thing (who to me is relevant like Miley Cyrus is relevant - they are both huge - with the teeny bopper crowd and if they can mature musically, then maybe they'll have a chance, if not, they'll go the way of Leif Garrett).

When I lost respect for Kanye West was when I saw him perform live - HE SUCKS BIG TIME! Guy cannot sing - it was PAINFUL!! I gave it a pass the first time, because, hey, everybody has a bad day - BUT, I have now been subjected to a number of "live performances" and the best ones are the ones he obviously is lip syncing to -

All the people mentioned above as icons could get up with a microphone and belt out a tune accapella and we'd all be amazed. If Kanye tried doing that the dog would start howling - He is a genius songwriter, but he can't sing or perform - please pull your pants up/

[pshsx1]

Worst song I've ever heard live: Kanye West singing Love Lockdown.
2nd worse: BEP singing I Gotta Feeling

But that's a separate convo.

But seriously, he sounds HORRIBLE live when he "sings." Rappers need to stick to rapping. Period.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

Worst song I've ever heard live: Kanye West singing Love Lockdown.
2nd worse: BEP singing I Gotta Feeling

But that's a separate convo.

But seriously, he sounds HORRIBLE live when he "sings." Rappers need to stick to rapping. Period.

AHHHHHH, I HATE THAT SONG!


Lol, did anyone hear the audio clip of Obama calling Kanye a jackass? Hilarious.

[DaemonSeid]

Obama calls Kanye a Jackass...ABC NEWS in trouble...heh

[KSig RC]

Awesomely, Taylor Swift's last album outsold any of Kanye's by, oh, over a million copies. Saying she's "less relevant" is kind of moronic.

[CutiePie2000]

Good for President Obama. He's absolutely right:
""I thought that was really inappropriate," Obama says. "What are you butting in (for)? ... The young lady seems like a perfectly nice person. She's getting her award. What's he doing up there?"

A questioner chimes in, "Why would he do it?"

"He's a jackass," Obama replies, which is met with laughter from several people."

HA HA HA HA

[skylark]

^^^^ I would have paid good money to see Kanye's reaction to hearing this clip from Obama. I'm betting he was either crushed beyond repair because he thought Obama was his "boy" or else he just went straight to flipping out.

I'd really love to see Kanye at the next town hall. Are they still doing those?

[Elephant Walk]

Why is Obama commenting on it?

Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Why is Obama commenting on it?

Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.

Since ABC and NBC were both present, I'm going to guess that someone asked him what he thought about it. And I have no problem with what he said. The president is asked all kinds of questions, I mean, why did the media ask Bush about baseball and crap like that? They do it because our president is first and foremost a person, and they know that people like to hear things about the president and his family that we little people can relate to.

The scene was also all over the news/Web, so in fact I think it was a very "current" event for them to ask him about. You may have also noticed that some news organizations have been tying Kanye in with Serena Williams and Joe Wilson in open dialogues about the lack of manners and civility in our modern society. As the leader of our society, many people feel the president should weigh in on and try to influence these things. If even just as a role model.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

The scene was also all over the news/Web, so in fact I think it was a very "current" event for them to ask him about.

A) Can you ever recall the Press ever asking former President Bush anything that he thought about pop culture?

B) ACORN's antics are a current event to speak about, but I don't recall much asking President Obama about ACORN.

Sounds like softball media questioning, if anything. Pretty embarrassing. Far cry from investigative journalism.

This is not the politics board, so I'll drop it. Not the place to rant.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

A) Can you ever recall the Press ever asking former President Bush anything that he thought about pop culture?

B) ACORN's antics are a current event to speak about, but I don't recall much asking President Obama about ACORN.

Sounds like softball media questioning, if anything. Pretty embarrassing. Far cry from investigative journalism.

This is not the politics board, so I'll drop it. Not the place to rant.

It was off-the-record; he was just joking around with the WHPC.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Why is Obama commenting on it?

Doesn't he have better things to do? This is worse than the Yale professor intervention.

It was him talking to the interviewer before the interview starts. He wasn't asked the question, they were just talking. Kinda like Reagan joking to one of the interviewer that he was going to bomb Russia in, I believe, 15 minutes. One of the people in the studio heard it and tweet it.