Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I feel that Westbrook is pretty much the entire Eagles' offense. He is explosive in the open field and their second best receiver (Jackson is amazing).
Tomlinson may be better but its hard to tell because that offense has a great receiving core (Jackson, Chambers, Gates, etc.) Not to mention that the guy backing up Tomlinson is Darren Sproles. This was a down year for him but LaDanian can't have another season where he averages 3.8 per carry if he wants to be considered the best IMO.
Side note: The fact that Favre made it to the pro bowl over Pennington proves that its a popularity contest.

Good observation and part of that I think is due to the lack of serious talent at WR.

Your RB should not be somewhere near your top WR if you have capable WRs on the field.

This goes right back into what I was saying:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/spor...er_talent.html

Good point on LT BTW also. And the last 2 seasons (since Norv Turner took over) have been down seasons for LT.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I feel that Westbrook is pretty much the entire Eagles' offense. He is explosive in the open field and their second best receiver (Jackson is amazing).
Tomlinson may be better but its hard to tell because that offense has a great receiving core (Jackson, Chambers, Gates, etc.) Not to mention that the guy backing up Tomlinson is Darren Sproles. This was a down year for him but LaDanian can't have another season where he averages 3.8 per carry if he wants to be considered the best IMO.
Side note: The fact that Favre made it to the pro bowl over Pennington proves that its a popularity contest.

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

Now...see how smart you sound while avoiding all the ig'nant shit?

Stay on that track and perhaps we can have some kind of civil gentlemanly discourse

[madmax]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Now...see how smart you sound while avoiding all the ig'nant shit?

Stay on that track and perhaps we can have some kind of civil gentlemanly discourse

Dont get uppity. You brought Randall Cuningham and Tim Couch. It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card. Then when I slapped you around the block with the facts about McNabb.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by madmax

Dont get uppity. You brought Randall Cuningham and Tim Couch. It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card. Then when I slapped you around the block with the facts about McNabb you backtracked.

dummy....dumb dumb dumb dummy...

Go back and see who was drafted ONE and TWO (AND THREE) in the 1999 draft.

Then SLAP YOURSELF upside the head.

"It was obvious YOU were trying to play the race card."

damn...please tell me you didn't just say that....SMH

as a matter of fact....here is a tickler for you while you rescind your race card...how many QBs from that draft are STILL ACTIVE and STARTING as of this past season?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Good observation and part of that I think is due to the lack of serious talent at WR.

Your RB should not be somewhere near your top WR if you have capable WRs on the field.

This goes right back into what I was saying:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/spor...er_talent.html

Good point on LT BTW also. And the last 2 seasons (since Norv Turner took over) have been down seasons for LT.

Norv Turner sucks- I blame the collapse of the Dolphins on his poor decision-making as our offensive coordinator.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by madmax

Westbrook isn't the entire offense. You even said Jackson is amazing. Some people even think he might be done. By the end of the season he only had about 120 yards in the last 3 playoff games combined. He made one play in the playoffs and that was a 2 yard screen pass in the Minnesotta game in which he went 70 yrds untouched with great downfield blocking. Corell Buckholter was a better rb by the end of the year. Most of the local press was calling for Buckholter to get the ball more. The Eagles offense would be fine if Andy Kotite would run the ball. The Eagles O line is built to run but Andy KOtite has games in which he passes 25 STRAIGHT times(Chargers a couple yrs ago) or 15 straight times this year vs the Redskins. Then when the team is trailing with no timeouts and the team is running the 2 minute drill Andy KOtite strarts running the ball. F'ing brilliant. With 10 seconds left in the game and no timeouts the ball on the 20 Troy Aikman specifically points out that Kordell McNabb has to go for the endzone or the clock won't stop and the Eagles will lose. What does Kordell do? He throws a 19 yard pass and the clock runs out and the Eagles lose.



Your point about Farve is 100% on the money. Farve was selected to the Pro Bowl and most Jets fans want to get rid of him. It is a popularity contest.

How did you guys do in the games where Westbrook didn't play? I want to say that yall we 0-4 when he didn't play. Without him all of the Eagles check down/ screen options are eliminated and as we all know McNabb is terrible against the Blitz. Buckhalter may be as good of a runner as Westbrook but in a west coast style offense it is far more important to have a running back who is a threat on screen plays.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Norv Turner sucks- I blame the collapse of the Dolphins on his poor decision-making as our offensive coordinator.

we can agree on that..I still dont understand how he keeps a job in the NFL.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

we can agree on that..I still dont understand how he keeps a job in the NFL.

People think he's a good coordinator for some reason... I've never seen it. His play calling in Miami was:
1st down: HB Dive
2nd down: HB Off tackle
3rd down: Incomplete pass

[DaemonSeid]

well Imma try to bring this full circle...numbers and stat crunching not withstanding

I THINK Limbaugh is wrong about McNabb...like him or hate him, McNabb lasting 10 years as a starting, STARTING..STAAARRRTTTING...QB is a success BY ANY STANDARD considering that most players, period, that was drafted that year aren't even starting or in most cases, playing.

Rush was and is wrong and his statements about Black QBs and Black presidents shows that he needs to for once be right...this is coming from a man who has had issues with painkillers and Viagra so how people defend him is anyone's guess.

If Obama rights many of the wrongs of the Bush administration and leaves out of office with America in a higher standard than it is now, if he excutes and is successful setting all of us on a course where there is a more peaceful world, if this admin finds an amicable resolution to the war we didn't need to be in, then Limbaugh and those who think like him in hatefulness will have their credibility reduced further.

[nate2512]

I have to disagree with the fact that Donovan McNabb is superstar quarterback. Yes, he is a good solid quarterback, but he isn't headed to the hall of fame. While he has been selected to five pro bowls, of which he was only selected to start one. He has no league MVP selections. Has yet to win a super bowl. Sure he's a good quarterback, he wins games.

ETA: Sure McNabb is good enough to start, no one is arguing that, but for a STARTING quarterback, he's mediocre at best.

and as for the limbaugh case, i think first we should define failure.

1. The condition or fact of not achieving the desired end or ends: the failure of an experiment.
2. One that fails: a failure at one's career.
3. The condition or fact of being insufficient or falling short: a crop failure.
4. A cessation of proper functioning or performance: a power failure.
5. Nonperformance of what is requested or expected; omission: failure to report a change of address.
6. The act or fact of failing to pass a course, test, or assignment.
7. A decline in strength or effectiveness.
8. The act or fact of becoming bankrupt or insolvent.

I would have to agree that according to the definintion above, I would like see Obama fail in accordance with defintion 1, 3, 4, 5*, 7*.

* Now these two are tricky and I feel I must justify myself, I disagree with what most people expect of him. Most people expect him to push his liberal agenda of radical ideaologies that I do not believe will be good for this country. In that I hope he fails. He may be a very strong and effective president, but if it's strong and effective in terms that I disagree with, it doesn't do me any good.

As far as anything Obama has done so far. I disagree with everything. And I can now rightfully say that now that he's actually done it.

For everyone of who bashed bush and were part of the result of his low approval rating, you say that because I agreed with him, I was an idiot. Well, I am now on the other side of the fence, I disapprove of Obama's job as president, and now, all these people who preach tolerance are going to say that I'm an idiot for disagreeing. I'm not giving up my morals or standards just becuase it isn't the popular thing to do. You people need to look at yourself and decide just how fucking hypocritical you are. If a radical had said these things about Bush he would have been PRAISED. Where's the JUSTICE in first amendmant?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by nate2512

I have to disagree with the fact that Donovan McNabb is superstar quarterback. Yes, he is a good solid quarterback, but he isn't headed to the hall of fame. While he has been selected to five pro bowls, of which he was only selected to start one. He has no league MVP selections. Has yet to win a super bowl. Sure he's a good quarterback, he wins games.

ETA: Sure McNabb is good enough to start, no one is arguing that, but for a STARTING quarterback, he's mediocre at best.

and as for the limbaugh case, i think first we should define failure.

1. The condition or fact of not achieving the desired end or ends: the failure of an experiment.
2. One that fails: a failure at one's career.
3. The condition or fact of being insufficient or falling short: a crop failure.
4. A cessation of proper functioning or performance: a power failure.
5. Nonperformance of what is requested or expected; omission: failure to report a change of address.
6. The act or fact of failing to pass a course, test, or assignment.
7. A decline in strength or effectiveness.
8. The act or fact of becoming bankrupt or insolvent.

I would have to agree that according to the definintion above, I would like see Obama fail in accordance with defintion 1, 3, 4, 5*, 7*.

* Now these two are tricky and I feel I must justify myself, I disagree with what most people expect of him. Most people expect him to push his liberal agenda of radical ideaologies that I do not believe will be good for this country. In that I hope he fails. He may be a very strong and effective president, but if it's strong and effective in terms that I disagree with, it doesn't do me any good.

As far as anything Obama has done so far. I disagree with everything. And I can now rightfully say that now that he's actually done it.

For everyone of who bashed bush and were part of the result of his low approval rating, you say that because I agreed with him, I was an idiot. Well, I am now on the other side of the fence, I disapprove of Obama's job as president, and now, all these people who preach tolerance are going to say that I'm an idiot for disagreeing. I'm not giving up my morals or standards just becuase it isn't the popular thing to do. You people need to look at yourself and decide just how fucking hypocritical you are. If a radical had said these things about Bush he would have been PRAISED. Where's the JUSTICE in first amendmant?

And again...what I and some others have said awhile ago, when someone says something, you attach what is said to the speaker.

Based on context of what you said, and by the fact that I don't know you personally, I can only take you at face value. Someone who knows you or has heard you speak on the topic will be able to weigh in on your words and assign credibility to what you said and better understand on where you are coming from when you make the above statement.

Rush on the other hand is a different story and as shown earlier he has stepped over the line more than enough times (I have even pointed it out earlier using his own words) that anyone worth his salt knows when that statement was made he merely wasn't talking about Obama's policies. It is very difficult to simply translate anything Rush says and thinks he is being sincere or goodly when we know his past history of bigotry.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And again...what I and some others have said awhile ago, when someone says something, you attach what is said to the speaker.

Based on context of what you said, and by the fact that I don't know you personally, I can only take you at face value. Someone who knows you or has heard you speak on the topic will be able to weigh in on your words and assign credibility to what you said and better understand on where you are coming from when you make the above statement.

Rush on the other hand is a different story and as shown earlier he has stepped over the line more than enough times (I have even pointed it out earlier using his own words) that anyone worth his salt knows when that statement was made he merely wasn't talking about Obama's policies. It is very difficult to simply translate anything Rush says and thinks he is being sincere or goodly when we know his past history of bigotry.

I urge you to please explain apartment from pushing his agenda and policies, what else could he possibly fail at?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by nate2512

I urge you to please explain apartment from pushing his agenda and policies, what else could he possibly fail at?

You're asking the wrong person because I am not the one wishing him nor his admin failure.

I believe that if his admin succeeds WE ALL succeed.

But that is just me, plus most of the 60% that voted for him.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You're asking the wrong person because I am not the one wishing him nor his admin failure.

I believe that if his admin succeeds WE ALL succeed.

But that is just me, plus most of the 60% that voted for him.

Yes, but I am saying though, is define success, define failure. It's all how people view it.

I believe an admin can only be measured as a success or failure in terms of policies passed or failed when introduced.

Anything terms of success or failure are just matters of personal opinions and cannot be said as factual because someone may not feel the same way.

For instance, I believe if his administration succeeds, we're doomed and we all fail.