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				08-20-2008, 12:02 PM
			
			
			
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			From my experience attending a competitive southern university, I went in as a student feeling/believing I could fit in any of the groups. In the small amount of time I attended recruitment, I knew there were several I did not feel comfortable in/with. Maybe that was due to my insecurities and maybe it was how they presented themselves to me during recruitment. I can't say for certain and I will never know the answer to that.
 What I can say, as I continued to spend time at the university I did realize many groups would not be a fit for me. You learn that through several avenues while attending university during your first year. It is not hard for me to understand that someone does not see a fit for them in a handful of groups after attending one full year at a university.
 
 I do feel for the young lady, but she made her choice and she will now deal with the consequences. I am just not so quick to judge that her choice was ridiculous and that she ruined her chances. I do not know all of the circumstances to make such a statement.
 
 I do agree that, by her not maximizing her options, she left the door open for other young women to find a place in a sisterhood they may love.
 
			
			
			
			
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				08-20-2008, 04:09 PM
			
			
			
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			Wow ... are we feeling a bit anti-Greek today?  From a midwestern perspective, I think that UGA just has a VERY competitive Greek scene.  Simple supply and demand, there is just not enough opportunity for the large number of PNMs out there.
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				08-20-2008, 04:37 PM
			
			
			
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			FYI
 UGA 2008  Freshmen class:
 
 Average GPA:  3.8
 Average SAT score:1250 (verbal & math)
 Average ACT: 27
 
 Hope scholarship has changed UGA ALOT. Students who used to go to out of state private schools now go to UGA.  It is very hard to get into.There are a lot of students who get into Vandy who don't get into UGA.  And that is hard for me to say being as I am a Vandy grad.  This, IMO, has nothing to do with sororities being "good" or not but I just coud not let that comment go by!
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					Originally Posted by BAMA2  FYI
 UGA 2008  Freshmen class:
 
 Average GPA:  3.8
 Average SAT score:1250 (verbal & math)
 Average ACT: 27
 
 Hope scholarship has changed UGA ALOT. Students who used to go to out of state private schools now go to UGA.  It is very hard to get into.There are a lot of students who get into Vandy who don't get into UGA.  And that is hard for me to say being as I am a Vandy grad.  This, IMO, has nothing to do with sororities being "good" or not but I just coud not let that comment go by!
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					Originally Posted by Elephant Walk  UGA is a public ivy like Texas. |  if uga is a public ivy, i am Francis Ford F***ing Coppola
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				08-20-2008, 06:55 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by gtdxeric  if uga is a public ivy, i am Francis Ford F***ing Coppola |  I didn't you know you made films.    
Public Ivy may be pushing it, but it is much harder to get into these days than most people realize. (Although I admit that SAT score looked lower than I was expecting. Most of the kids I see getting in have SATS in the 1300s and 1400s.)
 
I've even know a couple of kids who got into Tech who didn't get into UGA. Weird I know.
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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94  I've even know a couple of kids who got into Tech who didn't get into UGA. Weird I know. |  Not so weird     Tech cares about things UGA doesn't, UGA cares about things Tech doesn't, especially depending on your intended major.
 
I know it's blasphemy, but U(sic)GA actually isn't a bad school for certain things ...   It's just that dog is so UGLY.
		 
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					Originally Posted by snakealum  Snake is a Sigma Nu snake. |  AHA!
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					Originally Posted by gtdxeric  if uga is a public ivy, i am Francis Ford F***ing Coppola |  Hahahahahaha.  Thank you.  That statement made me grab the sides of my laptop, lean in, and say "WHAT?!?!?!  Please."      |  
	
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					Originally Posted by nittanyalum   
Hahahahahaha.  Thank you.  That statement made me grab the sides of my laptop, lean in, and say "WHAT?!?!?!  Please."     |  It may be even funnier to those of us who went there before the HOPE grant got started and standards started improving. It's so much more selective and well regarded than it used to be.
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					Originally Posted by gtdxeric  if uga is a public ivy, i am Francis Ford F***ing Coppola |  I know I'm late on this and I'm just getting caught up on this thread, but I have to tell you that this really did make me laugh out loud. THANK YOU.
		 
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			Even given the new information, there is nothing anyone on this board can say or do to answer the question of "Why".
 We don't know.  Period.
 
 Maybe it had nothing to do with her class standing.  Maybe it did.  Regardless, she unfortunately didn't make it.  And it's unfortunate, but it does happen = a lot = every year.
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					Originally Posted by Elephant Walk  UGA is a public ivy like Texas. |  Don't make me choke. I would agree that UGA and Texas are among the best public schools in the country. Is that what you meant by "public Ivy"? While UGA and Texas are on par with (or slightly below) other competitive presitigious public schools like Penn State, Maryland, UVA, William & Mary, UNC, etc, they pale in comparison to actual Ivy League schools. Keep in mind, I am not knocking the quality of these schools, because I went to one, just that I think the term "public Ivy" is laughable.
 
Some numbers to compare from collegeboard.com:
 
% admitted; GPA at or above 3.75; % first-year students in 10% of HS class; Middle 50% SAT Verbal; Middle 50% SAT Math
 
UGA: 55%, 63%, 51%, 560-660, 570-660 
Texas: 51%, none given, 69%, 540-670, 570-700 
Penn State: 51%, 31%, 45%, 530-630, 560-670 
Maryland: 47%, 65%, 56%, 570-680, 600-700 
UVA: 35%, 85%, 87%, 590-700, 610-720 
W&M: 34%, 77%, 79%, 630-740, 620-710 
UNC: 35%, 93%, 76%, 600-700, 610-700 
Cal: 23%, 93%, 98%, 590-710, 630-760
 
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Cornell: 21%, none given, 87%, 630-770, 660-730 
Penn: 16%, 65%, 96%, 650-750, 680-770 
Dartmouth: 15%, 62%, 91%, 660-770, 670-780 
Brown: 14%, none given, 92%, 660-760, 670-770 
Columbia: 11%, none given, none given, 660-760, 670-780 
Princeton:10%, 82%, 96% 690-790,700-790 
Yale: 10%, none given, 97%, 700-800, 700-790 
Harvard: 9%, none given, 95%, 700-800, 700-790
 
UGA and Texas (and most of the other "public Ivies") are not even close.
		 
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			violetpretty - UGA isn't even Vandy. Mid 50% range for class of 2011 - CR 640/730, M 660/740.
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			Or Northwestern - Mid 50% range - CR 670/750, M 680/770
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					Originally Posted by violetpretty  Don't make me choke. I would agree that UGA and Texas are among the best public schools in the country. Is that what you meant by "public Ivy"? While UGA and Texas are on par with (or slightly below) other competitive presitigious public schools like Penn State, Maryland, UVA, William & Mary, UNC, etc, they pale in comparison to actual Ivy League schools. Keep in mind, I am not knocking the quality of these schools, because I went to one, just that I think the term "public Ivy" is laughable.
 Some numbers to compare from collegeboard.com:
 
 % admitted; GPA at or above 3.75; % first-year students in 10% of HS class; Middle 50% SAT Verbal; Middle 50% SAT Math
 
 UGA: 55%, 63%, 51%, 560-660, 570-660
 Texas: 51%, none given, 69%, 540-670, 570-700
 Penn State: 51%, 31%, 45%, 530-630, 560-670
 Maryland: 47%, 65%, 56%, 570-680, 600-700
 UVA: 35%, 85%, 87%, 590-700, 610-720
 W&M: 34%, 77%, 79%, 630-740, 620-710
 UNC: 35%, 93%, 76%, 600-700, 610-700
 Cal: 23%, 93%, 98%, 590-710, 630-760
 
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 Cornell: 21%, none given, 87%, 630-770, 660-730
 Penn: 16%, 65%, 96%, 650-750, 680-770
 Dartmouth: 15%, 62%, 91%, 660-770, 670-780
 Brown: 14%, none given, 92%, 660-760, 670-770
 Columbia: 11%, none given, none given, 660-760, 670-780
 Princeton:10%, 82%, 96% 690-790,700-790
 Yale: 10%, none given, 97%, 700-800, 700-790
 Harvard: 9%, none given, 95%, 700-800, 700-790
 
 UGA and Texas (and most of the other "public Ivies") are not even close.
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Elephant Walk still has the North/South issue up his.... 
With Ivy being North, he will do anything to boost up SEC and SWC to their level, even at the expense of making us all laugh   
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