Why? Sophomore UGA story - Page 5

KSUViolet06 · #61 08-20-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vsgirl

I know they don't have a commitment to, but these are the same girls that introduced themselves to me and were quite friendly. I don't think you just forget someone that easily.

Something to think about:

I went to a small school where there were about 120-150 PNMs in recruitment every year, and even I had problems remembering girls from recruitment. That's ALOT of girls and yes, you do forget some of their names/faces. I've had plenty of girls walk up to me a few weeks after recruitment and say "Hey, you're ____ from Tri Sigma. How's it going? Remember me?" and I totally didn't. Not that I felt that they were insignifcant in any way, or beneath me at all, I just am really bad with names. When you meet almost 200 girls over the course of 4 days, they do start to run together.

Not to mention that once you receive a bid to a sorority (if these are new members you're talking about), you meet SO many new people in a short period of time that you have a hard time getting to know your own sister's names and faces, let alone remembering girls from your Gamma Chi group.

vaisbest · #62 08-20-2008, 03:59 PM

Since I am from up north, I felt a need to clarify something here. UGA sounds like a fun school but really, it is not the hardest or best school so to say that all of the sororities are amazing is a bit far fetched. We are not talking about Vandy or Vassar here. And since when did get a bid mean that you are better than....

Next, it is so silly to make others feel at fault for a popularity contest gone bad. The few minutes spent with a girl does not qualify anyone to judge whether they fit in. It is a very random, very power driven week in the life of a very impressionable 18 year old that can make them a few instant friends or help them start off college with a very bad taste in their mouths.

Last, girls you don't have to pay dues and go through this to have fun in college. you should do this because you actually like the process and want to be a part of it. it is like grad school....not required but can be good for some. so relax and take the money you saved and go do something else that makes you happy.

Kansas City · #63 08-20-2008, 04:09 PM

Wow ... are we feeling a bit anti-Greek today? From a midwestern perspective, I think that UGA just has a VERY competitive Greek scene. Simple supply and demand, there is just not enough opportunity for the large number of PNMs out there.

#64 08-20-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vaisbest

Since I am from up north, I felt a need to clarify something here. UGA sounds like a fun school but really, it is not the hardest or best school so to say that all of the sororities are amazing is a bit far fetched. We are not talking about Vandy or Vassar here. And since when did get a bid mean that you are better than....

Next, it is so silly to make others feel at fault for a popularity contest gone bad. The few minutes spent with a girl does not qualify anyone to judge whether they fit in. It is a very random, very power driven week in the life of a very impressionable 18 year old that can make them a few instant friends or help them start off college with a very bad taste in their mouths.

Last, girls you don't have to pay dues and go through this to have fun in college. you should do this because you actually like the process and want to be a part of it. it is like grad school....not required but can be good for some. so relax and take the money you saved and go do something else that makes you happy.

No one said that UGA's the best or the hardest. No one said that getting a bid makes you better than those who didn't.

Your "clarification" is unnecessary. You are dismissed.

KSUViolet06 · #65 08-20-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

No one said that UGA's the best or the hardest. No one said that getting a bid makes you better than those who didn't.

If anything, we tend to try to tell PNMs who don't get bids that Greek Life ISN'T the most important part of college life. I don't recall anyone saying in this thread that those who do get bids are better than anyone.

ETA: Proof of that:

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Cuts are tough for the girls and their friends/families who have to comfort them, but at the end of the day, college (and life) goes on. Rejection is tough for anyone, and probably even moreso for young college aged women who have been successful at everything else.

The best thing we can do is say that we're sorry things didn't work out. The best thing you can do as a friend/mom/aunt/whomever is encourage her to enjoy the rest of her college experience, whether that means looking into COB opportunities (if there are any at UGA) or just forgeting about Greek Life, getting involved elsewhere, and moving on.

BAMA2 · #66 08-20-2008, 04:37 PM

FYI

UGA 2008 Freshmen class:

Average GPA: 3.8
Average SAT score:1250 (verbal & math)
Average ACT: 27

Hope scholarship has changed UGA ALOT. Students who used to go to out of state private schools now go to UGA. It is very hard to get into.There are a lot of students who get into Vandy who don't get into UGA. And that is hard for me to say being as I am a Vandy grad. This, IMO, has nothing to do with sororities being "good" or not but I just coud not let that comment go by!

Elephant Walk · #67 08-20-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BAMA2

FYI

UGA 2008 Freshmen class:

Average GPA: 3.8
Average SAT score:1250 (verbal & math)
Average ACT: 27

Hope scholarship has changed UGA ALOT. Students who used to go to out of state private schools now go to UGA. It is very hard to get into.There are a lot of students who get into Vandy who don't get into UGA. And that is hard for me to say being as I am a Vandy grad. This, IMO, has nothing to do with sororities being "good" or not but I just coud not let that comment go by!

UGA is a public ivy like Texas.

LadyLonghorn · #68 08-20-2008, 05:29 PM

One of the things I don't see mentioned about Sophomores and up is if a woman has already been so involved in campus, why don't some members already know who she is? Even at large schools, sorority members get familiar with non-Greek women through campus activities and organizations. A Sophomore may look to be very involved in a variety of groups on her resume, but maybe she's one of those who likes to join groups because of the way it makes her resume look but doesn't get involved at all or spreads herself too thin. Those are the kinds of people we don't need. Chances are, if you're active in those organizations, some of the sorority women are familiar with you. If not, we've got to wonder who you really are.

And those of you who think MS is a fun and easy experience at a strong Greek school are sadly misinformed. You have no idea how painful it is to have to cut a huge percentage of PNMs starting from the first round.

srmom · #69 08-20-2008, 06:06 PM

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For those of you that asked, she did not rush as a freshman since both her Mom & Dad had pledged as Sophomores and had no problems (also at UGA but many moons ago). Their feeling was that you should get your feet on the ground and then rush. When she got to school, she did realize that it was a potential negative and she worked very hard to make sure that she did everything "right" this fall.

This is the situation of a girl I know who is rushing as a sophomore at UT next week, and frankly, I'm worried about her. It's competitive enough there, but to add in the fact that she's a sophomore who chose not to rush last year and, YIKES!

Last year, she decided not to rush because she's pre-med and didn't think she could handle the academics and greek life. She is now regretting it and wishing she had just gone ahead and rushed. She is going to make a go of it! Luckily, she has a number of friends in some houses, but still, the sophomore standing is going to be a strike.

I wish they allowed quota additions for upperclassmen. Back in my day at SMU, we were allowed to pledge 2 extra upperclassmen, it sure made for alot of happy gals who, for whatever reason, didn't rush 1st year

srmom · #70 08-20-2008, 06:09 PM

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We are not talking about Vandy or Vassar here.

Yes, thank heavens we're not! Vassar? A UGA person would cut off their foot before they'd choose Vassar.

Weren't Fern and her roommates in Animal House from Vassar?

"Can we dance with your dates?" (couldn't resist)

haha JK! Really!!

UGAalum94 · #71 08-20-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

No one said that UGA's the best or the hardest. No one said that getting a bid makes you better than those who didn't.

Your "clarification" is unnecessary. You are dismissed.

Thanks!

gtdxeric · #72 08-20-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

UGA is a public ivy like Texas.

if uga is a public ivy, i am Francis Ford F***ing Coppola

ree-Xi · #73 08-20-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vaisbest

Since I am from up north, I felt a need to clarify something here. UGA sounds like a fun school but really, it is not the hardest or best school so to say that all of the sororities are amazing is a bit far fetched. We are not talking about Vandy or Vassar here. And since when did get a bid mean that you are better than....

Next, it is so silly to make others feel at fault for a popularity contest gone bad. The few minutes spent with a girl does not qualify anyone to judge whether they fit in. It is a very random, very power driven week in the life of a very impressionable 18 year old that can make them a few instant friends or help them start off college with a very bad taste in their mouths.

Last, girls you don't have to pay dues and go through this to have fun in college. you should do this because you actually like the process and want to be a part of it. it is like grad school....not required but can be good for some. so relax and take the money you saved and go do something else that makes you happy.

Just wondering, are you in a Sorority? Not that you need to be in order to have an opinion, but words have more worth when you have some experience or evidence to back them up.

Although I agree with you that you do not need to go Greek to have a fulfilling and fun college career, there are many that are members and who really enjoy their experiences during and after college, and to judge them is unfair.

Yes, rush is difficult on many levels. I do understand the heartbreak (if you ever care to hear my story I would love to share it). But girls go into it being told that there are no guarantees and therefore they need to be prepared for the possibility of not being offered a bid.

As far as who gives someone the right to judge others based on a 10-minute conversation - I'd say that anyone who has say in who gets into an organization, job, etc., has the right. The criteria may change (and face it, even in jobs, people are judged on seemingly superficial things when you have to choose one person over another - or hundreds). I suggest that if you are going to bash a process, at least back it up with some evidence. Otherwise, you just come off sounding bitter and ignorant.

PS before you bash me, please look up the definition for ignorant.

Elephant Walk · #74 08-20-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Just wondering, are you in a Sorority?

Bottom-tier from....New Jersey County Tech at Newark, I would guess.

UGAalum94 · #75 08-20-2008, 06:53 PM

OP,

I'm not blaming the young women for choosing poorly certainly, but it's possible that the scenario described earlier in the thread did play out a little bit for her.

If she got most of the twelve that she wanted at the end of round one and she is like most PNMs, it may be the case that these were the absolutely most selective chapters who are probably least likely to take many sophomores. Had she instead gone back to her bottom five for second round and these were less selective chapters (for lack of a better way of expressing it), it's possible that she would have ended up with a bid.

Carnation, who I haven't seen posting but who is kind of an SEC rush expert, has noticed that at UGA it's much better to be cut hard after first round because then there's a good chance you can stick with some of your remaining chapters all the way through. If instead you are in a position to "cut" chapters after first, but then are cut hard yourself after second, you have nowhere to go.

This may have been a little bit what happened to your goddaughter.

There may be some COB opportunities, and if she's a real glutton for recruitment punishment, when UGA released the bid lists last year, there were even a couple of juniors on it last year.