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Old 03-03-2008, 06:16 PM
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Whew! We have some rude and angry people on this site. I hope their manners are better when they can't hide behind anonymity. If a subject isn't interesting to you, why not just pass and find one that is.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:53 PM
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If that's the case, I'm quite amused because it would be the first time in the history of this site that aopirose or honeychile got called rude.
ROTFL! I just might have to change my signature! You, too, aopirose?
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:45 AM
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Whew! We have some rude and angry people on this site. I hope their manners are better when they can't hide behind anonymity. If a subject isn't interesting to you, why not just pass and find one that is.
Classy. Namecalling? Really? That's very nice of you to do to people who critique your research. Very professional.

If you can't handle criticism of your "research" (i.e. compilation and comparison of unrelated facts), perhaps you shouldn't post here, instead of telling people not to post in your thread.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:13 AM
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I do need a new signature, honey. 33, can I quote you?

As for the OT, it is an interesting an tidbit. What’s next? Who has the most chapters at schools with an NCAA equestrian team?
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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you know you can, girlfriend.

honey, we need to take your new rudeness to a punk bar or two.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:43 PM
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I do need a new signature, honey. 33, can I quote you?

As for the OT, it is an interesting an tidbit. What’s next? Who has the most chapters at schools with an NCAA equestrian team?
I'm going with Cornell then Georgia.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:06 PM
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I do need a new signature, honey. 33, can I quote you?

As for the OT, it is an interesting an tidbit. What’s next? Who has the most chapters at schools with an NCAA equestrian team?
No aopirose, the most chapters at schools with an NCAA Rifle Team!
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:09 PM
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Yes, there are a few highly selective schools that don't have a Phi Beta Kappa chapter -- the service academies, Caltech, and Bryn Mawr among them. But many of those schools don't host GLO chapters on campus anyway, so their non-participation in PBK isn't relevant to the thread. (Many schools known for their excellent engineering or pre-professional programs do have chapters, such as MIT, Auburn, Texas A&M, etc.).

I don't believe all colleges and universities are equal in academic quality, and the marketplace doesn't believe that either. PBK is one of the better metrics to use if you want to put together a list of the 300 or so best undergraduate liberal arts programs in the country. Obviously a group that large is going to include more than just the Ivy League level institutions, but it's still an academically select group within the 2200+ four-year institutions in this country. So I was interested to see oldu's results, and if someone puts up an NPHC or MCGLO thread on the topic, I'll be interested in that, too.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:15 PM
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No aopirose, the most chapters at schools with an NCAA Rifle Team!
I'm going with Kentucky!

And for the record, I am not even looking these up.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:23 PM
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I'm going with Kentucky!

And for the record, I am not even looking these up.
After looking it up, my revised guess for most chapters is Nebraska.

2008 Team Qualifiers (Smallbore Three-Position and Air Rifle)
University of Alaska Fairbanks
University of Kentucky
University of Nebraska, Lincoln
University of Nevada, Reno
Texas Christian University
United States Military Academy
United States Naval Academy
West Virginia University

2008 Individual Qualifiers (Smallbore Three-Position)
Michelle Bauer, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia
Michael Dickinson, Jacksonville State University
Cameron Hicks, Murray State University
Chad Jernigan, Tennessee Technological University
Jacob Savitts, University of Kentucky

2008 Individual Qualifiers (Air Rifle)
Leslie Angeli, University of Kentucky
James Clark, Ohio State University
Kasey Meyer, Murray State University
Shannon Wilson, University of Mississippi

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:32 PM
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Yes, there are a few highly selective schools that don't have a Phi Beta Kappa chapter -- the service academies, Caltech, and Bryn Mawr among them. But many of those schools don't host GLO chapters on campus anyway, so their non-participation in PBK isn't relevant to the thread. (Many schools known for their excellent engineering or pre-professional programs do have chapters, such as MIT, Auburn, Texas A&M, etc.).

I don't believe all colleges and universities are equal in academic quality, and the marketplace doesn't believe that either. PBK is one of the better metrics to use if you want to put together a list of the 300 or so best undergraduate liberal arts programs in the country. Obviously a group that large is going to include more than just the Ivy League level institutions, but it's still an academically select group within the 2200+ four-year institutions in this country. So I was interested to see oldu's results, and if someone puts up an NPHC or MCGLO thread on the topic, I'll be interested in that, too.
But even if this were the case, the implicit argument is itself a logical fallacy (I have been teaching my students about these of late), especially if my understanding of the ways that NPC/NIC/IFC organizations colonize is correct. The appearance of specific social greek orgs on the same campus as PBK ultimately proves nothing about either organization, which is what most people seem to be pointing out.

Sidebar: I too have noted that oldu's posts never take into consideration NPHC orgs.
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and if someone puts up an NPHC or MCGLO thread on the topic, I'll be interested in that, too.

Good luck, someone.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:17 PM
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so i guess that means all other GLOs don't have any standards when it comes to expanding because they don't have the brightest students there
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:22 PM
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But even if this were the case, the implicit argument is itself a logical fallacy (I have been teaching my students about these of late), especially if my understanding of the ways that NPC/NIC/IFC organizations colonize is correct. The appearance of specific social greek orgs on the same campus as PBK ultimately proves nothing about either organization, which is what most people seem to be pointing out.

Sidebar: I too have noted that oldu's posts never take into consideration NPHC orgs.
Exactly. In many cases, GLO chapters were there before the PBK chapter.

BTW - Nice work TSteven on the rifle teams.

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Old 03-04-2008, 02:40 PM
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BTW - Nice work TSteven on the rifle teams.
Why, thank you. UK does a good job promoting the Rifle Team. For what it is worth, Kentucky folk love to hunt. As such, a lot of Kentuckians grew up learning to shoot all those crazy varmints and wild critters from hundreds of yards away. Who knew that some would parley that ability into an athletic scholarship to a Phi Beta Kappa institution of higher learning.
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