Most chapters at Phi Beta Kappa schools

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by aopirose

For the purpose of this discussion, please define "elite." Thanks.

I imagine it's "elite" as defined by Phi Beta Kappa's criteria. The list of campuses where they have chapters is quite impressive...the flagship state schools like Univ. of Michigan, Tennessee, Wyoming; the strong academic private schools like Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt; and the highly selective small schools like Sewanee (Univ. of the South), Millsaps, Birmingham-Southern.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I imagine it's "elite" as defined by Phi Beta Kappa's criteria. The list of campuses where they have chapters is quite impressive...the flagship state schools like Univ. of Michigan, Tennessee, Wyoming; the strong academic private schools like Northwestern, Stanford, Vanderbilt; and the highly selective small schools like Sewanee (Univ. of the South), Millsaps, Birmingham-Southern.

Some of these schools are great and would be considered "elite" by nonPBK standards.

However, some of these colleges and universities aren't considered "elite" by nonPBK standards. In fact, I would chuckle if people from some of these colleges and universities called themselves "elite."

[OleMissGlitter]

Did you count active only or active and inactive combined?

Ole Miss received their Phi Beta Kappa Chapter in 2001. We are the only Public University in the State of Mississippi to have a chapter. Millsaps (private) has had their chapter since 1989.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by OleMissGlitter

Did you count active only or active and inactive combined?

It's just active. (Which I agree with -- no use counting where you have a closed chapter for this list.)

[aopirose]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Some of these schools are great and would be considered "elite" by nonPBK standards.

However, some of these colleges and universities aren't considered "elite" by nonPBK standards. In fact, I would chuckle if people from some of these colleges and universities called themselves "elite."

Me too.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Some of these schools are great and would be considered "elite" by nonPBK standards.

However, some of these colleges and universities aren't considered "elite" by nonPBK standards. In fact, I would chuckle if people from some of these colleges and universities called themselves "elite."

I'm laughing at the notion that all schools that have PBK chapters are "elite".

There's at least 17 PBK chapters in PA (I didn't count too closely). They're not at "bad" schools, but most of those schools are not what anyone could be considered "elite".

A good exercise in correlation does not equal causation.

The OP seems to constantly be striving to find some sort of measuring stick by which to compare GLOs and figure out how they all measure up.

While history is interesting, this isn't really historic. It's like the which sorority is the best because it has more fireplaces in its house. (anyone remember that one?). Two things which really aren't related in any way, and particularly aren't related in terms of success.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by kddani

The OP seems to constantly be striving to find some sort of measuring stick by which to compare GLOs and figure out how they all measure up.

And that never plays well here where any mention other than "no matter the letter we're all Greeks together" is rebuffed.

oldu, I appreciate your time and effort and find your threads interesting and informative.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

And that never plays well here where any mention other than "no matter the letter we're all Greeks together" is rebuffed.

If you find this concept so offensive, why are you still here instead of posting at Fratty?

(I think I know the answer, but I'll throw it open to see some other opinions.)

[oldu]

I would include the NPHC groups if I could locate a good chapter listing for each organization. They do not seem to be listed on the national sites. How about someone be energetic enough to do one of those "all the chapters ever" lists for each of the NPHC fraternities & sororities. By the way I do these kinds of postings because I think it is healthy for us to constantly compare our success (or lack of) with others. Good healthy competition is what makes us better.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by oldu

I would include the NPHC groups if I could locate a good chapter listing for each organization. They do not seem to be listed on the national sites. How about someone be energetic enough to do one of those "all the chapters ever" lists for each of the NPHC fraternities & sororities.

NPHC isn't a factor in any of your threads.

And, no, I won't be the one getting Delta's chapter listing for the purpose of this discussion because this topic isn't that interesting.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by oldu

I would include the NPHC groups if I could locate a good chapter listing for each organization. They do not seem to be listed on the national sites. How about someone be energetic enough to do one of those "all the chapters ever" lists for each of the NPHC fraternities & sororities. By the way I do these kinds of postings because I think it is healthy for us to constantly compare our success (or lack of) with others. Good healthy competition is what makes us better.

*ring ring*

Receptionist: Hello, _______ Sorority/Fraternity, Inc. May I help you?

oldu: Yes, this is oldu. I am conducting research into Greek Lettered Organizations and I was wondering if you had available a listing of your collegiate chapters and where they were founded?

Receptionist: (could only say yes, no, or instruct you on how to purchase a history book)


That's pretty simple, right?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by oldu

I would include the NPHC groups if I could locate a good chapter listing for each organization. They do not seem to be listed on the national sites. How about someone be energetic enough to do one of those "all the chapters ever" lists for each of the NPHC fraternities & sororities. By the way I do these kinds of postings because I think it is healthy for us to constantly compare our success (or lack of) with others. Good healthy competition is what makes us better.

www.google.com

[kddani]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

And that never plays well here where any mention other than "no matter the letter we're all Greeks together" is rebuffed.

oldu, I appreciate your time and effort and find your threads interesting and informative.

There's a middle ground to be had. And, as 33girl said, if you don't like it here and want to discuss how you and your GLO are better than everyone else, why don't you find an appropriate venue for that?

You can discuss and compare sororities without putting down those other than your own, acting like one is better than another. It's all subjective.

[NutBrnHair]

I don't think all comparisons are subjective.

Look at grades. Panhellenics around the country publish the collective grades of all active chapters on their campus. It's not the be-all-end-all, but it's an example of an objective comparison and I don't see anything wrong with that.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Some of these schools are great and would be considered "elite" by nonPBK standards.

However, some of these colleges and universities aren't considered "elite" by nonPBK standards. In fact, I would chuckle if people from some of these colleges and universities called themselves "elite."

I know the ones here in MN wouldn't call themselves elite. And one of my alma maters is listed and I KNOW it is not elitist.

After reading the list the premise of this thread seems to be dubious.