Bid Lists 2011

[ComradesTrue]

TCU Chi Omega: http://www.tcu360.com/sites/default/...2011-08-31.pdf

(page 5, no picture)

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by LampLady

I have a copy of the A&M bid list, but this site will not let me list an attachment. If you can tell me how to get it to you, I'll send it. I have a personal file...it's not posted on a website.

Mary

Thanks so much - I do have the bid list now. I appreciate your help.

[DubaiSis]

I'd like to run the data for UT and the other big Texas schools to compare/contrast the in state/out of state differences with Auburn and Bama, the schools we do have the data on. And yes, I know that makes me an out of the closet geek. I own it.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

I'd like to run the data for UT and the other big Texas schools to compare/contrast the in state/out of state differences with Auburn and Bama, the schools we do have the data on. And yes, I know that makes me an out of the closet geek. I own it.

Which ones do you want? I put in a sprinkling for comparison of big greek schools.... These are the overall percent of out of state students (including international) for undergrads.

University of Georgia: 10% (Athens, GA)
University of Kentucky: 12% (Lexington, KY)
University of Tennessee: 14% (Knoxville, TN)
University of Alabama: 21% (Tuscaloosa, AL)
Mississippi State University: 21% (Mississippi State, MS)
Auburn University: 30% (Auburn, AL)

University of Arizona: 24% (Tucson, AZ)
University of California -- Berkeley: 14% (Berkeley, CA)
Clemson University: 30% (Clemson, SC)
Indiana University Bloomington: 28% (Bloomington, IN)
University of Oklahoma: 18% (Norman, OK)

University of North Texas: 10% (Denton, TX)
Texas Tech University: 6% (Lubbock, TX)
University of Texas -- Austin: 5% (Austin, TX)
Texas A&M University -- College Station: 4% (College Station, TX)

- also not a closeted geek.....

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Which ones do you want? I put in a sprinkling for comparison of big greek schools.... These are the overall percent of out of state students (including international) for undergrads.

University of Georgia: 10% (Athens, GA)
University of Kentucky: 12% (Lexington, KY)
University of Tennessee: 14% (Knoxville, TN)
University of Alabama: 21% (Tuscaloosa, AL)
Mississippi State University: 21% (Mississippi State, MS)
Auburn University: 30% (Auburn, AL)

University of Arizona: 24% (Tucson, AZ)
University of California -- Berkeley: 14% (Berkeley, CA)
Clemson University: 30% (Clemson, SC)
Indiana University Bloomington: 28% (Bloomington, IN)
University of Oklahoma: 18% (Norman, OK)

University of North Texas: 10% (Denton, TX)
Texas Tech University: 6% (Lubbock, TX)
University of Texas -- Austin: 5% (Austin, TX)
Texas A&M University -- College Station: 4% (College Station, TX)

- also not a closeted geek.....

Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.

Alabama http://quickfacts.ua.edu/demographics.html 67% from Alabama, 31% out of state, 3% international (check your math Bama, that's over 100%)

[dukemama]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Alabama http://quickfacts.ua.edu/demographics.html 67% from Alabama, 31% out of state, 3% international (check your math Bama, that's over 100%)

As a market researcher who deals with statistics on a daily basis I see this all the time. That's why when I write reports, I often add "results may add to more than 100% due to rounding".

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

Where did you find those numbers? They're drastically different from what I found on collegeboard.com, at least for Auburn and Alabama.

This was from a list on www.insidecollege.com.

Maybe this list is a year or two old? It had all of them in one place. The % out of state is not listed on the statistics on the Peterson's Guide? but it was close to the published numbers of the couple of universities that I checked on their own websites.

It gives you a rough ballpark for the difference between Cal and U-Texas and U. Tenn and Auburn or Bama.

[ComradesTrue]

TCU ADPi, with picture (page 5):

http://www.tcu360.com/sites/default/...2011-09-01.pdf

[CougarGrad]

I have a hard copy of the bid lists from North Texas, but it doesn't list anything other than their recruitment id #'s and their names. However, I'm gonna go see if irishpipes has her annual thread up and go put some numbers up there for y'all.

[DubaiSis]

And that's student population, not Greek population, right? So this is one set of numbers to use when comparing placement outcomes. But what I'm interested in is the percentage of instate/out of state sorority rush placement. I think it's a lot more diverse than people think, and the childhood connections are helpful but not as critical as some think. Based on the numbers we've run, I'm right, but that is for only 2 schools which is not helpful in the big picture.

For the sorority members/alums who don't want to share lists due to security concerns, please feel free to share the lists minus the names (and high schools for that matter). I personally don't care one bit who the girls ARE. I wasn't even looking at that column except for alphabetizing purposes. I just want to know who pledged from what state, and to a lesser extent what city.

[SWTXBelle]

I do encourage pnms to write; I am not going to contact them personally in case they did NOT have a successful recruitment and the last thing they need is a reminder. I would like to see the CHAPTERS be pro-active. Usually there is an alumna who is responsible for handling recs - she would seem to be the perfect person to do it. After recruitment she should have a little time to express the appreciation each chapter should have to those alumnae who write recs.

Some Gamma Phi chapter advisors are pro-active - I send a self-addressed stamped envelope with a sheet listing all the young women for whom I have written recs. Some return it, and some don't, so I think it fair to say that IHQ doesn't have a policy on it. Claiming privacy issues makes no sense. Sending me the results of those for whom I have written recs is in no way, shape or form a privacy risk for the girls - I already have their information, don't I? And it's not just idle curiosity. Our alumnae panhellenic has actives come and speak to pnm high school seniors in the spring, and we try to get a mix of chapters and campuses. Knowing where local girls are enables us to provide the best possible information to our high school seniors.

eta - and the "sic, sad" was a "Daria" reference. Yes, I am old.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I really don't think the average collegiate chapter is aware of FERPA (heaven knows their parents aren't when they call professors and the university about their kids), but they are aware of their own RM policies which some groups stress to not put names, photos, email addresses, etc. on web pages, advertise when and where closed events are, and it sucks for you but it is the reality of the world we live in. You might think it is "sad sad" but I think college students and younger aren't taught enough about protecting their safety and privacy. There's a whole thread about a continual alumna perp in the Greek Life forum, who is operating in the region you want information about. I'm not surprised if between that and the facebook creeper last year information is harder to obtain than in previous years.

This (particularly in bold). I know in the business world, it's becoming more important than ever to protect the privacy of clients and employees. People are just more instinctive this way...

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

If you're writing recs you have the information for PNMs, so why don't you just contact them directly or their family? You answered the situation yourself, the successful PNMs are busy being college freshmen, and the collegians are recovering from recruitment. I get that it is important to you, but it isn't a priority for the chapters and I doubt that will change with super busy over programmed college students. In a perfect world alumnae receive thank you cards for submitting recs and updates about their chapters, but we don't.

Jinx!

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I do encourage pnms to write; I am not going to contact them personally in case they did NOT have a successful recruitment and the last thing they need is a reminder. I would like to see the CHAPTERS be pro-active. Usually there is an alumna who is responsible for handling recs - she would seem to be the perfect person to do it. Some Gamma Phi chapters are pro-active - I send a self-addressed stamped envelope with a sheet listing all the young women for whom I have written recs. Some chapters return it, and some don't, so I think it fair to say that IHQ doesn't have a policy on it. Sending me the results of those for whom I have written recs is in no way, shape or form a privacy risk for the girls - I already have their information, don't I? And it's not just idle curiosity. Our alumnae panhellenic has actives come and speak to pnm high school seniors in the spring, and we try to get a mix of chapters and campuses. Knowing where local girls are enables us to provide the best possible information to our high school seniors.

I get that, and my chapter (way back in the day) did all this. I just think people are more wary and more busy these days. Maybe if you emailed your rec girls right before recruitment started to wish them well and "keep you posted" you might have a better response rate?

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

. Maybe if you emailed your rec girls right before recruitment started to wish them well and "keep you posted" you might have a better response rate?

This I like and will do next recruitment season.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

This I like and will do next recruitment season.

I do that (email the PNMs for "best wishes") at the start of recruitment and I have great results with regard to getting updates from my girls.