Fraternity Member Branded TCU - Page 3

Gusteau · #31 01-27-2010, 04:00 PM

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Wire hangers.

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NO. WIRE. HANGGERRRRRRRSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

AOII Angel · #32 01-27-2010, 04:05 PM

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That is often how it is done. The majority of GLO branders (going back to the much more visible BGLO branding) do not have access to a commercialized symbol or nicely shaped wire so they use crappily shaped wire hangers and sometimes have to apply it more than once. Even those who do have access to a symbol often try to do "double branding" or put chapter symbols alongside the organization's symbols.

We don't know what tool and technique were used in this instance.

You're typing as a health expert.

Think along the lines of a dumbass drunk collegiate who knows nothing about burns and the negatives of branding.

This was exactly my point...that brand took multiple applications which he may not have expected or erroneously thought he could handle. Agreeing to it at the beginning is irrelevant. If he withdrew his consent, it becomes assault.

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Neither do I.

Take my posts within their full context. Not to mention, what's embedded in your posts is an assumption regarding my own background.

I'm not assuming anything about your background. Just using what you typed...

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He's a member of a fraternity who consented to getting a brand. He's saving face for his wealthy helicopter family. And they are reacting as a wealthy helicopter family would.

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Yeah we're definitely trying to stop the investigation. We're so sold on our opinions based on this limited info that nothing else matters.

Ha...that's funny.

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And assuming that he was completely oblivious to that fact that burning your flesh could hurt is naive.

How many guys do you know that act macho and pretend they can handle more than they can?

AOII Angel · #33 01-27-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig

I want to put that in my signature.

I give you permission

knight_shadow · #34 01-27-2010, 04:08 PM

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How many guys do you know that act macho and pretend they can handle more than they can?

Some of my brothers have asked me to get a brand. I said no.

8 years later, I'm still brand-free.

If he REALLY didn't want one, he didn't have to get one.

AOII Angel · #35 01-27-2010, 04:16 PM

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Some of my brothers have asked me to get a brand. I said no.

8 years later, I'm still brand-free.

If he REALLY didn't want one, he didn't have to get one.

I agree, I'm not arguing that he wasn't a complete moron to say yes at the onset, but as a feminist who believes that no means no, I really do believe that once you say no, the activity MUST stop. This happens in medicine all the time. I'm doing a procedure and the patient wants me to stop. I have to stop, otherwise, I actually can be charged with assault, as well. We all make mistakes, but if you are doing something to someone, and they want you to quit, it is in your best interest and theirs to stop immediately.

knight_shadow · #36 01-27-2010, 04:27 PM

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I agree, I'm not arguing that he wasn't a complete moron to say yes at the onset, but as a feminist who believes that no means no, I really do believe that once you say no, the activity MUST stop. This happens in medicine all the time. I'm doing a procedure and the patient wants me to stop. I have to stop, otherwise, I actually can be charged with assault, as well. We all make mistakes, but if you are doing something to someone, and they want you to quit, it is in your best interest and theirs to stop immediately.

I won't argue with you that no means no.

I've seen a lot of people get branded, though, and I've never heard someone say stop while getting one. And until I hear otherwise, I still can't wrap my head around that fact that these guys would do this to a member of the Carter family without his consent.

I'm sure more information is going to come up soon. I'm interested in seeing where this goes.

Senusret I · #37 01-27-2010, 04:45 PM

Since when can they show butt cheeks on the news?

knight_shadow · #38 01-27-2010, 04:50 PM

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Since when can they show butt cheeks on the news?

Apparently, it's less of a cheek if they blur the ass crack *shrugs*

DrPhil · #39 01-27-2010, 05:41 PM

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This was exactly my point...that brand took multiple applications which he may not have expected or erroneously thought he could handle. Agreeing to it at the beginning is irrelevant. If he withdrew his consent, it becomes assault.

The bolded does not automatically an assault make.

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I'm not assuming anything about your background. Just using what you typed..

Okay, so k_s and I are classist and making judgments of the wealthy and privileged because we are..........

No, you aren't using what I typed within its full context. You just picked up the "wealthy families" part.

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How many guys do you know that act macho and pretend they can handle more than they can?

Branding for men and women is often about pretending you can handle more than you can. So, does that make this Carter guy an idiot who is learning a lesson or a victim of assault? That's what the investigation is for.

Ch2tf · #40 01-27-2010, 05:42 PM

I'm going for a reach on this one. I agree with Dr. Phil, he's trying to save face in lieu of his helicopter family.

DrPhil · #41 01-27-2010, 05:48 PM

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....but as a feminist who believes that no means no.....

This is as interesting of an appeal as your mention of rape earlier.

I'm also a feminist who thinks that no means no.

That doesn't mean that "no means no" applies to everything and that victimization is so easily assumed. That's why there are investigations.

ETA: Ch2tf, I'm just going based on the pieces of puzzle that were in the story. Is it a mere coincidence that a fraternity member from an influential family travels with friends, gets drunk, is assaulted, and comes back with a jacked up brand on his ass? Surely his fraternity brothers aren't dumb enough to consciously assault someone from an influential family. Sure, the alcohol could've taken all brain cells away for everyone involved. It's just way too stupid and convenient.

VandalSquirrel · #42 01-27-2010, 09:42 PM

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I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the way your brand turned out.

Senusret I · #43 01-27-2010, 09:54 PM

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I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the way your brand turned out.

YESSSSS

VandalSquirrel · #44 01-28-2010, 12:04 AM

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YESSSSS

This isn't my first time at the rodeo boys!

Ghostwriter · #45 01-28-2010, 04:25 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this story is funny! Good grief talk about your buyers remorse.

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Darn. My fraternity.

I have never heard of a Kappa Sig brand. Guess if you are stupid enough anything can be branded. Still think it is funny. Don't know for sure but it appears he was a brother and not a pledge.

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