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Old 02-21-2008, 03:00 PM
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Kevin; I would agree with you.
However judging solely on posting from someone claiming to be a Brother there, does not seem to me that there is an understanding.

And the point of my posting was not to cause a discussion per se on the particulars of the event but to get away from the grade school level of snitching.

From my experiences covering things up, as has been suggested here, as if they never happened generally only makes things worse at so many levels.
Jon, I'll take credit for that. I advised him not to say anything which wouldn't help his chapter's situation. He's not his chapter's spokesman, so really, we have no business interrogating him over this thing.

That he may or may not be upset that his chapter got turned in for what may or may not have been a minor violation is really immaterial. The story here is that they were reported by another fraternity and the problem has been solved by the active chapter signing, the university and the house corporation [alumni] signing an agreement which seems to set milestones for reinstatement.

As far as I'm concerned, there's not a lot else to the story other than the snitching issue, which can be an interesting discussion.
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:10 PM
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I'm actually a member of sigma nu and UW and living there. If you all would have seen what we got in trouble for, you would laugh. The fact that Pi Kappa Alpha and Sigma Alpha epsilon turned us in was infuriating.
Would seems, from what I have read, that your own National determined that it was serious.
Care to state your point(s) or rather counter-points?
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:14 PM
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Would seems, from what I have read, that your own National determined that it was serious.
Care to state your point(s) or rather counter-points?
Any time a chapter violates the student code of conduct wherever they may be, it's "serious." Such incidents can have an effect on whether insurance covers an incident. The fact that such events happen shows that a chapter is an insurance risk.

To analogize, if I'm clocked going 6 miles per hour over the speed limit, although the infraction isn't that big a deal and I wasn't threatening anyone's safety, if my insurance company catches wind of it, my rates are going up because according to their statistics, I'm more of a risk.
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Any time a chapter violates the student code of conduct wherever they may be, it's "serious." Such incidents can have an effect on whether insurance covers an incident. The fact that such events happen shows that a chapter is an insurance risk.

To analogize, if I'm clocked going 6 miles per hour over the speed limit, although the infraction isn't that big a deal and I wasn't threatening anyone's safety, if my insurance company catches wind of it, my rates are going up because according to their statistics, I'm more of a risk.
True Kevin. I agree with both that and you.

However I still would like to hear Mr 3's counter-points.
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Anytime one fraternity turns in another, you really need to get together and come to some agreements. It does nothing but hurt greek life as a whole.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:16 PM
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Anytime one fraternity turns in another, you really need to get together and come to some agreements. It does nothing but hurt greek life as a whole.
True in some cases.
In other cases as we have seen all too many times here in RM when one
chapter does something bad it reflects on the rest of Greek life.
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