Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Okay first of all, my mom HATED jello salad with marshmmallows so i NEVER had it growing up. I am so deprived.

Secondly, I'm glad to hear that people are aware of such things as I bolded -- I never assumed that people who were not minorities ever thought about it like that.

Well, I wasn't always aware of it, but I think that if you teach, you think a lot about your obligation to your students and then you generalize.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Yeah, I think everyone here is a willing participant and that's why we talk about what we talk about. In real life, it can be harder not to put people on the spot.

I talk pretty freely too, but I think I occasionally think before I speak more in real life about how what I say may permanently affect my relationships with other people. It matters more to me in real life that a person has become upset or angry than it matters here. I care about other people's comfort; on GreekChat, I assume that if you're in the news and politics forum, you like to mix it up.

There's also a matter of risk that exist when we talk about race or class or gender in real life. Some people are interested in classifying others and treating them differently based on that classification. Here, there are very few consequences.

Describe to me what you mean by thinking before one speaks in real life?

I do not share your sentiments about the news and politics forum.

Be mindful of what you say on the internet, more often than not, it comes to bite you when you least expect it...

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Because I don't give a fuck about you...how many times I have to tell you that you don't excite me enough to care about your 'train' of thought?

This isn't about ME, idiot. You want this to be emotional and personal. It isn't.

Once again, be able to express an opinion without being attached to the opinion. If you don't want to familiarize yourself with the school or thought because you can't remove ME from it then you will forever be the ignorant, angry dude who talks out of his ass about race.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL

What is it that you find so "laugh out loud" funny? Share?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This isn't about ME, idiot. You want this to be emotional and personal. It isn't.

Once again, be able to express an opinion without being attached to the opinion. If you don't want to familiarize yourself with the school or thought because you can't remove ME from it then you will forever be the ignorant, angry dude who talks out of his ass about race.

It IS about you.

Because you are still talking to me. And you want me to understand your 'train'.

WHOOO WHOOOOT

Hop on board!

Awwww...I guess Im an angry idiot because I can't be heartless like you...poor me.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

No slight to you but I would like to believe that you think before you say anything regardless of the medium.

I don't think there is that much difference on how some feel whether in real life on on the boards.

There is always risk but if you are willing to take it depends on what reward you are looking for in the final outcome...agreed?

Maybe there shouldn't be, but for me there is. If we worked together, and you were really worked up about that cartoon, I'd point out what I thought it was referring to one time, and then, your emotional intensity would carry the day. It wouldn't be worth it to me to upset you more by continuing to talk about it and disagree.

I wouldn't pretend that I agreed, but I'd try to find common ground to validate you as a person (maybe by acknowledging one of the intentional monkey comparisons) vs. staying with the seemingly irrational to me political or topical point.

I think I'm a much more agreeable person in real life than I am here, but then, I'd almost have to be.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

What is it that you find so "laugh out loud" funny? Share?

Your tangent. I just thought the "choose to respond" part of that post was funny because it was so technical.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

It IS about you.

To you. Get over me.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I can't subscribe to that theory for 2 reasons:

1. The already mentioned history of the relationship with Blacks and monkeys as a historical context in this country

2. The closeness of the related events surrounding the creation of the cartoon.

If the chimpanzee wasn't shot then the theory would have a 1/2 a chance of standing...but...you still have #1 to contend with in relation to the POTUS who signed the bill.

Well said. As usual certain people around here WILL find a way to excuse what took place. It is quite obvious to anyone with a brain that the cartoon was a racist jab at Obama. Those who share the sentiment expressed in the cartoon will attempt to make it seem as though anyone who has issue with it is being overly sensitive and/or paranoid.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Maybe there shouldn't be, but for me there is. If we worked together, and you were really worked up about that cartoon, I'd point out what I thought it was referring to one time, and then, your emotional intensity would carry the day. It wouldn't be worth it to me to upset you more by continuing to talk about it and disagree.

I wouldn't pretend that I agreed, but I'd try to find common ground to validate you as a person (maybe by acknowledging one of the intentional monkey comparisons) vs. staying with the seemingly irrational to me political or topical point.

I think I'm a much more agreeable person in real life than I am here, but then, I'd almost have to be.

Then again, that would depend on what kind of associates we are right?

How well you knew me and so on.

And I am pretty much the same way...we could talk about it (in real time) make our points and move on and probably come to an amicable POV and continue...here is the kicker...what about beyond work?

[agzg]

This thread makes me think of two things, both of which were my grandfather's mottoes.

1. "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one."

2. "Why are there so many horses' asses in the world and so few horses?"

Awww Grandpa Big Mike. What a great guy.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

To you. Get over me.

I'm past you. You keep trying.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Your tangent. I just thought the "choose to respond" part of that post was funny because it was so technical.

What kind of tangent you think I was making? And should there be something wrong with using the language I am accustomed to using in my daily life? Not sure I understand what the "eye winking" is about...

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Describe to me what you mean by thinking before one speaks in real life?

I do not share your sentiments about the news and politics forum.

Be mindful of what you say on the internet, more often than not, it comes to bite you when you least expect it...

(I'm using generic "you" here)
If you were someone I saw everyday, especially if you were someone that I saw everyday and liked, I wouldn't jump as readily to criticize your political or social opinions, especially without more regard for how I expressed my disagreement.

Since this forum exists for us to talk and debate about stuff, I assume that people are interested in debate and might even enjoy disagreement for the sake of teasing out and strengthening their own opinions.

I don't think I've ever said anything I'd be completely ashamed of online or anything (well, if I thought long enough, I'm sure I could think of something), but sometimes I post without considering things as much as I would if I were sending out a neighborhood newsletter.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

What kind of tangent you think I was making? And should there be something wrong with using the language I am accustomed to using in my daily life? Not sure I understand what the "eye winking" is about...

a nervous twitch

or twit.