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[DubaiSis]

While I (underlined) was able to just play along with the religious aspects of our ritual and there were Jewish members who just stood quietly through the parts that contradicted their beliefs, the fact is you shouldn't have to. You're not told as a pledge what the ritual says and a devout Atheist might be SERIOUSLY unhappy at the turn of events. I've never raised a stink about this because 1-I know it would be a losing battle and 2-if there was any sort of success with a petition to clean up the ritual, some chapters would probably go ballistic over removing the religious aspects. I see this as causing a huge rift in the sorority if it happened. But I'd love to compare our ritual to Phi Sig's.

[carnation]

Isn't the term "a devout atheist" an oxymoron?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by carnation

Isn't the term "a devout atheist" an oxymoron?

Actually, my mother asked our pastor to visit my grandfather (with his approval) when he was 96 years old. The pastor called my mother afterwards to say that my grandfather was the most devout atheist he had ever met.

Thankfully, within two weeks, my grandfather had a complete turnaround!

Back on topic: I question whether all rituals should be watered down so that everyone can tolerate it. I couldn't help but think that pktcougar made a similar point. Should a ritual be changed due to a handful of people, or should it remain true to its original form? That might be a concept of a completely different thread.