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[naraht]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Also, I didn't even know women's only hours were a thing at college gyms. Is it to protect ED patients, or for Muslim or married Orthodox Jewish women who can't have their hair uncovered when men are around?

What's ED here? Erectile Dysfunction???

[Missouri.girl]

Well since eating disorders are mental disorders, it's a little different. Kind of like people not understanding depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc unless you've had them. It's extremely difficult for someone to really comprehend the extent of the damage it does without experiencing it. But if you think I'm wrong about it, then that's something I can not change your mind about.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by Missouri.girl

Well since eating disorders are mental disorders, it's a little different. Kind of like people not understanding depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc unless you've had them. It's extremely difficult for someone to really comprehend the extent of the damage it does without experiencing it. But if you think I'm wrong about it, then that's something I can not change your mind about.

No. It's not different at all. You don't have be schizophrenic to be empathetic of someone suffering from schizophrenia. To suggest otherwise is an incredibly ridiculous and short-sighted statement. By your logic, a psychiatrist/psychologist must themselves suffer with the same disorder to "really comprehend the damage it does."

No one is saying mental disorders are not real. I am saying that if you suffer from any disease, you should get treatment and minimize aggravating the condition by knowingly avoiding places that will exacerbate your symptoms. The answer is not in getting the rest of the world to accommodate to each and every person's special symptoms because it is unreasonable and impossible.

[Missouri.girl]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

No. It's not different at all. You don't have be schizophrenic to be empathetic of someone suffering from schizophrenia. To suggest otherwise is an incredibly ridiculous and short-sighted statement. By your logic, a psychiatrist/psychologist must themselves suffer with the same disorder to "really comprehend the damage it does."

No one is saying mental disorders are not real. I am saying that if you suffer from any disease, you should get treatment and minimize aggravating the condition by knowingly avoiding places that will exacerbate your symptoms. The answer is not in getting the rest of the world to accommodate to each and every person's special symptoms because it is unreasonable and impossible.

It's really interesting that you say this, particularly because I wasn't aware that empathizing and understand were the same thing. Obviously I was wrong though, thanks for informing me.

[als463]

Originally Posted by Missouri.girl

It's really interesting that you say this, particularly because I wasn't aware that empathizing and understand were the same thing. Obviously I was wrong though, thanks for informing me.

Then maybe you should crack open a book once and a while instead of coming on to a new chatroom to argue with people you don't even know. To empathize with someone is to understand someone (or identify with). Your logic about understanding/ empathizing with someone eve though that person never suffered that condition is just plain ridiculous. I'm a therapist who specializes in addictions and guess what??? I don't do drugs and I've never had a crack addiction (or any for that matter). Does that mean I must be horrible at my job? I guess it must.

I agree with adpiucf about the girl not paying much attention in class. Sure, it sucks that she was triggered and the shirt was clearly in poor taste but, so are a lot of things. I'm not going to ask someone to wear a different shirt because I disagree with what they think is funny.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by Missouri.girl

It's really interesting that you say this, particularly because I wasn't aware that empathizing and understand were the same thing. Obviously I was wrong though, thanks for informing me.

You're so very welcome.

[AZTheta]

Missouri.girl: Your reasoning is fallacious and your argument specious.

[DubaiSis]

It's a hard thing to explain to guys, especially those who aren't pigs and don't understand what their buddies do FREQUENTLY. I was driving with my husband and a friend of his in my car and the guy rolled down the window and cat-called a girl. Right out of my car! I nearly kicked him out of the car, but then he'd have been within access of the girl. The fact that I was (and am) in my mid-40's when this happened made it all the more horrifying.

I've never cared about working out with guys, but some girls really do. The only reason it bugs me is the meat market the gym becomes on Thursday night. And speaking of that, words to live by: if you can see the pantyline of your thong, EVERYTHING you're wearing is too tight. But then those girls aren't worrying a whole lot about what the guys are saying to or about them. Possibly they worry about their next yeast infection...

[ASTalumna06]

In the 4 years I was at school, I worked out in the gym a total of.. three times? I stopped going because every time I was there I got hit on. It might have been ok if I wasn't called "baby" or if the pick-up lines were something better than, "You need help with that?" (referring to whatever piece of equipment I was using at the time). It's annoying, and a lot of times the "meatheads" of the gym look at it as a perfect time to show off their bodies so you'll drool over them and won't be able to turn them down. I've belonged to many gyms, and I've seen the same thing happen to other women. It can be uncomfortable in such a setting.

When I lived in MA, I belonged to a gym that had a women's only room. It was great - not only because there weren't any men around, but because there was only was equipment that women generally use (smaller free weights, cardio machines, and a handful of machines to work the arms, legs, and one for abs).

In some cases, I don't think it has to do with being self-conscious, but rather, it causes less of a distraction. I go to the gym to work out, and that's it. It's nice to know that I'm not going to get hit on by a guy who's only interested in me because he saw my butt moving up and down on the stairmaster.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

In some cases, I don't think it has to do with being self-conscious, but rather, it causes less of a distraction. I go to the gym to work out, and that's it. It's nice to know that I'm not going to get hit on by a guy who's only interested in me because he saw my butt moving up and down on the stairmaster.

Right, to be clear, I meant to call out two different phenomenon: one is an internal self-consciousness, and the other is having to deal with BS from men.

[AGDee]

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