Cardinal Rule Broken by Our Greek Advisor ;-(

[Senusret I]

As her constituent, she absolutely has standing to question her life and career.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

As her constituent, she absolutely has standing to question her life and career.

I agree.

People's personal lives can be challenged for a number of reasons. This is especially the case if your personal life is so attached to your career which is the case for chapter advisors, Greek advisors, Greek Life reps, etc.

[Basket Case]

These posts gave me lots to consider.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Basket Case

Thanks to all for understanding why it's not a straight forward answer and my reasons for bringing this to GC. THANKS GC.

Well....

Good luck to you.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

As her constituent, she absolutely has standing to question her life and career.

Yes, but I think the relationship between the OP and the new Dean is not that simple.

This Dean is essentially faculty, a position of power in an academic setting.

The OP is a student, a subordinate to faculty in an academic setting. The OP, I think, has more to loose if she decides to make an issue out of this. She stands to loose her position on student government, and maybe her degree, and this situation is not worth it.

OP, yes, you sat on the interview committee, and your input was used, but I can assure you that your input, as a student, was not the deciding factor to hiring her. You don't know who this new Dean knew at your school to get hired. You don't know any "back room" politics that often happen when people get hired.

If you decide to be the one to "tell it", and make a stink out of it, you may not just hurt the Dean's career, but who ever gave the final okay to hire her.

You need to realize that you are not just going after the Dean, but anyone else who okay'd her to work at your school. What I'm saying is, there may be more targets that you will hit, not just the Dean.

Like I said OP, you have more to loose than this Dean. LET IT GO!!!

The bottom line: Don't tell!!! If the school does not have a problem with it, the Dean and her NPHC sorority don't have a problem with it, and the NPC may not know, then let it go.

You are stirring up mess.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Yes, but I think the relationship between the OP and the new Dean is not that simple.

This Dean is essentially faculty, a position of power in an academic setting.

The OP is a student, a subordinate to faculty in an academic setting. The OP, I think, has more to loose if she decides to make an issue out of this. She stands to loose her position on student government, and maybe her degree, and this situation is not worth it.

OP, yes, you sat on the interview committee, and your input was used, but I can assure you that your input, as a student, was not the deciding factor to hiring her. You don't know who this new Dean knew at your school to get hired. You don't know any "back room" politics that often happen when people get hired.

If you decide to be the one to "tell it", and make a stink out of it, you may not just hurt the Dean's career, but who ever gave the final okay to hire her.

You need to realize that you are not just going after the Dean, but anyone else who okay'd her to work at your school. What I'm saying is, there may be more targets that you will hit, not just the Dean.

Like I said OP, you have more to loose than this Dean. LET IT GO!!!

The bottom line: Don't tell!!! If the school does not have a problem with it, the Dean and her NPHC sorority don't have a problem with it, and the NPC may not know, then let it go.

You are stirring up mess.

Also, this.

OP is messing not only with this Dean's career, but others as well. Also, when OP goes out into the real world to find a job, is being a busybody whistleblower something she wants to be known for? I really doubt it.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

As her constituent, she absolutely has standing to question her life and career.

Damn straight.

And even though we're not talking "a major moral obligation like child abuse"* - where does it start at an institution with people thinking they can get away with things? We ripped the hell out of the 20 year old guy who bought the Rho Chi shirt for his cousin at Buttface U with his IFC money from Babbleboob U.

If this woman had left out that she got a degree from Bob Jones University but "that isn't who she is anymore" - would that be OK?

*As we all know, comparing someone to Hitler/calling them a Nazi is known as Godwining the thread. What shall we call this sort of statement? Sandusking?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Damn straight.

And even though we're not talking "a major moral obligation like child abuse"* - where does it start at an institution with people thinking they can get away with things? We ripped the hell out of the 20 year old guy who bought the Rho Chi shirt for his cousin at Buttface U with his IFC money from Babbleboob U.

If this woman had left out that she got a degree from Bob Jones University but "that isn't who she is anymore" - would that be OK?

*As we all know, comparing someone to Hitler/calling them a Nazi is known as Godwining the thread. What shall we call this sort of statement? Sandusking?

Since GC NPCers are quick to tell usernames that they cannot join one NPC sorority and then join another NPC sorority/

I am pretty sure most of these GCers would advocate submitting an inquiry to a NHQ if this new Dean claimed to be an initiate of 2 NPC sororities. Those GCers may not recommend a student be the one doing the investigating but they may be in favor of an anonymous (and relatively effortless) membership verification and/or report to an NHQ--or recommending the student hand the task to a nonstudent NPCer. Perhaps those GCers would not believe an NPCer who claims she was given permission to be initiated in 2 NPC sororities 10 years ago. Perhaps those GCers would also grasp why this dishonesty (on the Dean's part) or inconsistency (on the NPC sorority's part if the Dean is telling the truth) may contrast on both a personal and professional level with the Dean's roles at the institution.

[33girl]

I'm just amused at everyone who is FAR past school age who is treating "10 years ago" like it's "100 years ago." Of course, someone who notably isn't is the OP, who as a collegian, has more of a natural inclination than anyone else to do so.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Since GC NPCers are quick to tell usernames that they cannot join one NPC sorority and then join another NPC sorority/

I am pretty sure most of these GCers would advocate submitting an inquiry to a NHQ if this new Dean claimed to be an initiate of 2 NPC sororities. Those GCers may not recommend a student be the one doing the investigating but they may be in favor of an anonymous (and relatively effortless) membership verification and/or report to an NHQ--or recommending the student hand the task to a nonstudent NPCer. Perhaps those GCers would not believe an NPCer who claims she was given permission to be initiated in 2 NPC sororities 10 years ago. Perhaps those GCers would also grasp why this dishonesty (on the Dean's part) or inconsistency (on the NPC sorority's part if the Dean is telling the truth) may contrast on both a personal and professional level with the Dean's roles at the institution.

*applause*

and

I want to know what sorority she's in.

[adpiucf]

First World Problems.

I've missed you, GC.

[DrPhil]

Yikes. People still use archaic phrases like "First World."

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yikes. People still use archaic phrases like "First World."

I'm not sure I understand why you find the phrase archaic. We learned about first world vs developing nations / 2nd world vs third world in one of my economics classes. I've never thought of it as outdated or possibly offensive.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World