12-year-old tased by police officer

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

He's definitely slow.....

Racist, and arrogant too.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Racist, and arrogant too.

Is the cheering section done yet?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oh how clever...

So are you also taking the drug trafficker's word over the police officer? Clearly it was white privilege that made the felon shop at an expensive undergarments store instead of paying her traffic tickets.

Clearly.

Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Racist, and arrogant too.

I do not call individuals racist. But, he's definitely unrelentingly slow.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Your brain is still on page 1 of this thread. Fix that. And you are the only one who brought up and keeps bringing up white privilege in this thread.

Sure, you've evolved since then and moved on. It doesn't matter that this was a CHILD or actually, no, you pretty much haven't backed off of that one. Perhaps you can educate us on how your world view has evolved since then? It is now okay to taser a CHILD or it never is? You were wanting guidelines and casting racial aspersions and refusing to commit to anything and now I'm the slow one?

Jesus Christ.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Fuck the police officer. Bottom line is dude tased a 12 year old, which was unnecessary. You're one of those mofos who doesn't give a shit about anybody but himself.

You weren't there. I give a shit about the police officer who was arresting a multiple felon who was being interfered with by another adult and a young lady who got tasered and likely deserved it. If the St. Louis PD stands behind him, so do I. If new facts emerge, that could change. Until that time, I'll take the word of a law enforcement officer over that of a convicted drug trafficker.

Who I don't give a shit about is the arrested individual unless you can demonstrate her rights were somehow violated and the child and adult who interfered with an officer. Hope they learned their lesson.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Sure, you've evolved since then and moved on. It doesn't matter that this was a CHILD or actually, no, you pretty much haven't backed off of that one. Perhaps you can educate us on how your world view has evolved since then? It is now okay to taser a CHILD or it never is?

Hmmm...let me break this down for you. Some of us are discussing whether tasering policies and practices should vary by age (and perhaps other characteristics that have been mentioned in this thread such as mental condition). As PiKA2001 stated, there are already policies and practices regarding tasering children and there are exceptions to these policies and practices. That is the larger issue that some of us were looking at in order to see beyond the specifics of these events and find commonalities. What do these incidents (how rare these incidents are does not matter since there are many things that are relatively rare but are the foundation for research, discussions, and policies) have in common and how can these commonalities fuel tasering policies and practices.

Okay.....

Originally Posted by Kevin

You were wanting guidelines and casting racial aspersions and refusing to commit to anything and now I'm the slow one?

Dear, he who believes that "no one is holding you back but yourself," perhaps you are trying to divert attention from your horrible attempt at a Sandusky joke. You are the only person who brought up and keeps talking about white privilege in this thread. You have memory relapse if you think I ever have a problem saying exactly what I want to say and sticking to it.

[Kevin]

Each of these incidents is unique. Examining commonalities of a lot of isolated incidents is foolish. What does this incident have with the one I posted a link to? Not one thing. Here, we likely had a felon being arrested and the adult and child interfered with that arrest and considering none of them are facing charges and only one got tased, they had a pretty good day.

AThe only reason I bring up white privilege at all is that I'm still straining to see why you injected race into this thread in the first place. That was you on the page 1 I apparently can't get past. And here you are bringing in an entirely different thread.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by KKKevin

You weren't there. I give a shit about the police officer who was arresting a multiple felon who was being interfered with by another adult and a young lady who got tasered and likely deserved it. If the St. Louis PD stands behind him, so do I. If new facts emerge, that could change. Until that time, I'll take the word of a law enforcement officer over that of a convicted drug trafficker.

And this is what makes you so fucking stupid. If you had a 12-year old daughter, and a police officer tased her for whatever reason, you would be the first mofo having a cow over the shit.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I do not call individuals racist. But, he's definitely unrelentingly slow.

You're right, and I feel you, but dude has made several remarks on here and other threads that I've read that makes me believe that he is.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

And this is what makes you so fucking stupid. If you had a 12-year old daughter, and a police officer tased her for whatever reason, you would be the first mofo having a cow over the shit.

Especially if I was a drug trafficking felon who didn't take a bit of personal responsibility for raising a child who was idiot enough to interfere in my arrest.

I would never and have never had an outstanding citation of any kind, so that's just a fun hypothetical that'll never come to fruition.

Nice try though, cheerleader.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Each of these incidents is unique.

No, they are not. Addressing commonalities (in addition to differences, when applicable) is part of what fuels discourse, research, and policies and practices.

Originally Posted by Kevin

The only reason I bring up white privilege at all is....

...because you are the one who brought up white privilege. If you wanted to know what I meant on page 1 you should have asked for clarity pages ago.

Originally Posted by Kevin

And here you are bringing in an entirely different thread.

Just like you brought up Sandusky.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No, they are not. Addressing commonalities (in addition to differences, when applicable) is part of what fuels discourse, research, and policies and practices.

Yeah. This thread is research and will result in new policies and practices. Good luck with that one.

...because you are the one who brought up white privilege. If you wanted to know what I meant on page 1 you should have asked for clarity pages ago.

What you said on page one was extremely clear. It was a jackass personal attack.

Just like you brought up Sandusky.

Would you rather I have told a Michael Jackson joke?

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by KKKevin

Especially if I was a drug trafficking felon who didn't take a bit of personal responsibility for raising a child who was idiot enough to interfere in my arrest.

I wouldn't give a shit what you were. Like I said, your bitch ass would be the first mofo having a cow about it if it happened to your daughter. No, I'm not being a "cheerleader", I'm just agreeing with the facts. You're too stupid, and arrogant to even see it from another point of view.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yeah. This thread is research and will result in new policies and practices. Good luck with that one.

You sound ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Kevin

What you said on page one was extremely clear. It was a jackass personal attack.

Never confuse a personal attack on Kevin with a mention of white privilege. Google Image "12 year old girl" and see what you find.

Now that you have gotten the hell over it....

Originally Posted by Kevin

Would you rather I have told a Michael Jackson joke?

Tell a Kevin joke. Those are endless.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

I wouldn't give a shit what you were. Like I said, your bitch ass would be the first mofo having a cow about it if it happened to your daughter. No, I'm not being a "cheerleader", I'm just agreeing with the facts. You're too stupid, and arrogant to even see it from another point of view.

Not at all.

I'd never be in a situation like that because 1) no way in hell would I have a warrant out for my arrest; and 2) any child of mine would be respectful enough of authority not to interject themselves into my arrest which would never happen. This isn't rocket science.

I'm not seeing it from your point of view because I'm not taking a drug trafficker at her word. You apparently are. The police officer said that the child and another adult were interfering in the arrest, that's enough to justify a taser.

If you don't want to be tased, don't screw with the police. It really is that simple. That's truth no matter what color you are.