Intentional Single Preference (ISP) is Bad

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Groups that require their legacies be on their first bid list would release any legacies they couldn't issue bids to before pref so this wouldn't be a problem. If quota is 40 and you have 50 legacies left before prefs, you've gotta release 10 of those legacies. Most chapters would have released them earlier anyway since it's not desireable to have a pledge class full of only legacies.

Maybe it is different at your chapter but our quota range is not set until Pref. So how would a chapter know to release 10 legacies before Pref? Not that we have this problem since we don't get very many legacies.

Also why would it not be desirable to have a pledge class full of legacies?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Maybe it is different at your chapter but our quota range is not set until Pref. So how would a chapter know to release 10 legacies before Pref? Not that we have this problem since we don't get very many legacies.

Also why would it not be desirable to have a pledge class full of legacies?

Right.

Anyway, this is a lot of nit-picking, and I think my original point was lost.

A woman who is a legacy to a chapter should NOT ISP that chapter thinking she is a sure thing. Her legacy status is not some magical protection against ending up bidless.

[DubaiSis]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Maybe it is different at your chapter but our quota range is not set until Pref. So how would a chapter know to release 10 legacies before Pref?

Also why would it not be desirable to have a pledge class full of legacies?

I'm sure the battle over legacies happens the night before preference, and making this estimation is part of the process. Although quota can't be stated for certain until after preference, it can probably be guessed within a handful. But this would be an additional reason why you wouldn't want a full pledge class of legacies. You'd REALLY be hamstrung about who you can invite to preference - 40 girls you have to have and another 40 (or whatever) who you'll get if any of those 40 legacies decide to go another way. If you're a high, oh crap, what's the phrase, return-rate chapter and you can only invite a few more than the expected pledge class, you'd REALLY have no flexibility.

I doubt anybody from a high performing chapter on a huge pledge-class campus is going to say how it works, but I'd be willing to guess they say at some point early in rush that they are willing to take 20 legacies (or whatever) and work around those numbers from the get-go. A quota within a quota, maybe?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Also why would it not be desirable to have a pledge class full of legacies?

Because legacy doesn't always = stellar rushee or stellar member. Of your chapter, or of any chapter (or of any sorority, for that matter)

Also, it can kind of suck if you feel that you have essentially no choice in who you want to be your members - say you meet an awesome girl but she has no chance of getting in since she's a 1st gen college student and there are enough legacies to fill your pledge class and then some.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Mevara

Maybe it is different at your chapter but our quota range is not set until Pref. So how would a chapter know to release 10 legacies before Pref? Not that we have this problem since we don't get very many legacies.

Also why would it not be desirable to have a pledge class full of legacies?

Most campuses know an approximate number for quota through out the week. Since you don't have this problem, it's silly to nit pick. For the chapters that do have "more legacies than quota," I have yet to hear of any of them pledged a class that is 100% legacy. Reasons to not pledge a full class of legacies 1. Your chapter likes other girls better. 2. You want to appear inclusive as an organization and not elitist. 3. Your legacies don't all meet your MS criteria. I could go on, but I'm sure you get the picture. Chapters that actually have this "problem" likely have a pretty good method to keep from having too many legacies at Pref so they don't break their own rules since a sister whose legacy doesn't receive a bid after going to pref would start WORLD WAR III!