NPC adding new council members--do you think it could/will happen?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Not my area, but I remember BootyKBG saying at one time (I think 90s, can't find the thread) KBG was pursuing eventual membership into the NPC once they hit a certain number of chapters. Then, a leadership change in the NPC caused that to go off course.

Well, leadership is constantly changing in NPC since the officer positions cycle through the NPC member organizations.

[33girl]

First off, NIC sets NO rules about membership selection or rush - hell, there are NIC chapters that are co-ed - so that's why they can have NPHC chapters and chapters with narrow focii and it's OK. They also have 60 members.

The absolute impossibility of NPHC and NPC joining up has ZERO to do with race...unless Black people have a gene that made them create sororities that rush/acquire members the way NPHC groups so. If any of the NPHC sororities decided to drop that model, NPC would tell them come on in. They're huge!! They'd be crazy not to! I'm pretty sure the smallest NPHC group absolutely dwarfs (dwarves?) the largest NPC group.

Maybe Munchkin03 or one of the other AXOs can answer this...when did AXO stop being music focused? Was it before they joined NPC? As far as all the AES groups, I don't think any of them ever had something that said "only education majors can join." They were located only at normal schools or schools of education within bigger universities, so having such a clause would have been moot. When they went into NPC, there was nothing membership wise that had to be changed.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The absolute impossibility of NPHC and NPC joining up has ZERO to do with race...unless Black people have a gene that made them create sororities that rush/acquire members the way NPHC groups so. If any of the NPHC sororities decided to drop that model, NPC would tell them come on in. They're huge!! They'd be crazy not to! I'm pretty sure the smallest NPHC group absolutely dwarfs (dwarves?) the largest NPC group.

It is no coincidence that NPHC sororities are historically and predominantly Black and NPC sororities and fraternities are predominantly white. The membership intake formats of NPHC sororities were selected based on the specific needs of our organizations; and they have historical and present significance that is not completely separate from race, gender, and education level. That's why these are historically and predominantly Black college (and college educated alumnae) women's organizations.

It is wonderful that most of the NPHC fraternities are a part of the NIC because the NIC doesn't have rush/membership intake regulations. However, there is no guarantee that this would be the case even if an NPHC sorority was to change its membership intake format. Compatibility in this regard may not only be about rush/membership intake.

/Something being correlated with race does not mean there is exclusion and discrimination on the basis of race.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The absolute impossibility of NPHC and NPC joining up has ZERO to do with race...unless Black people have a gene that made them create sororities that rush/acquire members the way NPHC groups so. If any of the NPHC sororities decided to drop that model, NPC would tell them come on in. They're huge!! They'd be crazy not to! I'm pretty sure the smallest NPHC group absolutely dwarfs (dwarves?) the largest NPC group.

With deference to DrPhil's answer above, I again, offer my explanation on this point.

First and foremost NPHC orgs focus is service, not social. My understanding is that the NPC is the opposite. Correct me if I am wrong. Not only is the NPHC focus service, it targets a specific community - the AfAm community. Do we serve others and do others gain from our service? Sure they do. Again, to really understand the true purpose of the NPHC you must understand the crucial reasons why we were founded. We were founded to help resolve issues in the AfAm community, so in this respect it is about race.

Joining a NPHC org (and for any other org) should not be about how you join, but why you join and what you do once you are a member. If you feel that a particular GLO fits what you want to do, join. If not KIM.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Well, leadership is constantly changing in NPC since the officer positions cycle through the NPC member organizations.

Well yeah but, wouldn't the same people be on the exec board* for a while? Sidney Allen just died and the Phoenix said about how she was the first ASA to cycle through all the chairs. In other words she wasn't secretary one year and totally off exec the next...she moved up to VP, president etc.

Re KBG, I think it was less a question of leadership per se changing (i.e. new people) than the climate of Greek life changing and the people involved maybe re-evaluating what they had said previously.

*I realize this may not be technically correct terminology so anyone thinking of correcting me, don't get your girdle in a knot.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well yeah but, wouldn't the same people be on the exec board* for a while? Sidney Allen just died and the Phoenix said about how she was the first ASA to cycle through all the chairs. In other words she wasn't secretary one year and totally off exec the next...she moved up to VP, president etc.

Re KBG, I think it was less a question of leadership per se changing (i.e. new people) than the climate of Greek life changing and the people involved maybe re-evaluating what they had said previously.

*I realize this may not be technically correct terminology so anyone thinking of correcting me, don't get your girdle in a knot.

I agree, but 26 different people also may have a different opinion regarding the matter when they swing through the top offices. A climate fostered by a receptive president may change when a president (who may have remained silent as secretary or VP) takes over who is less than receptive.