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Old 04-27-2011, 06:23 PM
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Yeah, I can see how that is a gray area. But it is so strange to me because you better make sure no one leaves with a napkin or something like that on accident during FR to avoid a "gift" infraction.
I really don't think that chapter get fined for this stuff. Certainly I've heard of it, but it's always second or third hand, so I am chalking it up to an urban legend for now.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:57 PM
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Yeah, I can see how that is a gray area. But it is so strange to me because you better make sure no one leaves with a napkin or something like that on accident during FR to avoid a "gift" infraction.
During formal, yes. During informal, as I said, you can really stretch what "gifts" entails.

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Fines are okay - but only for late lists, etc. They cannot be used for dirty rushing. But, I do love the idea of using the fines as a 'pay out' to chapters without violations. That's freakin awesome!
I'm thinking you couldn't so much make it a straight up here's-a-check payout, as much as you could make it "hey XYZ, since you didn't dirty rush, you don't have to pay your yearly Panhel dues."

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Here's another issue:
I would love to see a recruitment budget for a chapter be cut as a sanction. Now I know fines cannot be issued as punishment, but telling a chapter that they cannot spend as much would be the reverse of that. So, would that be acceptable?

The only issue I could see with that is this: our Panhellenic-mandated recruitment guidelines state that each chapter's recruitment budget cannot exceed $2,500. (I've got an issue with them telling us how much we can spend out of our own budget, but that's an issue for another day...) Well, that $2,500 limit is (and has been for years and year) a huge joke because most chapters I know have at minimum 2x that much in their chapter budgets for it and some in excess of 3x!! Once you account for food, supplies for philanthropy arts & crafts and rentals of things like tables & chairs, you're over budget without even factoring in the pretties like flowers. So, the Panhellenic is kidding themselves that chapters will keep expenditures at or under $2,500 during recruitment...but I've love to see them try to enforce an even lower budget.

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Even if you cut a chapter's budget - that is, "ABC dirty rushed and therefore they can only spend $1500 while everyone else spends $2500" - the alumnae are going to ride to the rescue and pay for stuff. That's a no brainer.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:36 PM
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Even if you cut a chapter's budget - that is, "ABC dirty rushed and therefore they can only spend $1500 while everyone else spends $2500" - the alumnae are going to ride to the rescue and pay for stuff. That's a no brainer.
On our campus, we must account for - at actual value - any item donated or 'given' by anyone, including alums. It goes toward our budget. But again, that's assuming that it gets reported accurately by the chapters.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:35 PM
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I really don't think that chapter get fined for this stuff. Certainly I've heard of it, but it's always second or third hand, so I am chalking it up to an urban legend for now.
It'd be so petty if one was, but I feel like everyone is always frantically taking things like napkins out of PNM's hands when they leave, so I always assumed it was a real infraction. I hope it is just a myth.
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