Elizabeth Taylor dies at 79

[honeychile]

She surely was a beautiful woman. It's hard to believe that she was younger than Shirley Temple.

I tried to post a picture, but it wouldn't paste. Try this: from Suddenly Last Summer


ETA: Am I the only one who thought that Zsa Zsa would have gone first?

[AOIIalum]

I truly thought she'd somehow survive this time. So sad, but here's hoping she rests in the peace she deserves.

[DrPhil]

Oh goodness gracious people, "foiness" is just "fineness" said a certain way. You all have never heard someone say "AND SHE IS FOINE!!!" ??

[DrPhil]

Because I also liked Paul Newman.



Other good photos on wonderwall/msn: http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/in-...hotoId%3D49142

[knight_shadow]

What a beautiful woman. I have always wondered what her background was. Most of what I've found has said she's Caucasian only, but she has an extremely exotic look.

[DrPhil]

LOL @ caucasian only. Does that prevent exotic looks?

All accounts just say she was born in Hampstead and her parents were Americans so I assume her parents were white. Since North American whiteness (race) consists of different ethnicities, I would be interested to know her parents' ethnic backgrounds. Her mother had a Switzerland background on her paternal side and I don't know what her father's ethnic background is. His background is probably also European.

[knight_shadow]

I guess that was a poor choice of words on my part, but I meant "not caucasian and ____"

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I guess that was a poor choice of words on my part, but I meant "not caucasian and ____"

What does that mean?

Being caucasian and having ethnic backgrounds that are considered white do not preclude exotic looks.

[knight_shadow]

Many of the people I've seen with similar features identify as "Greek/Spanish/Portuguese/Black/whatever and white," so it made me wonder if she had a very prominent "other" in her background.

I think I just did a poor job of explaining what I was thinking. I realize that being white doesn't mean you won't look a certain way.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Many of the people I've seen with similar features identify as "Greek/Spanish/Portuguese/Black/whatever and white," so it made me wonder if she had a very prominent "other" in her background.

I think I just did a poor job of explaining what I was thinking. I realize that being white doesn't mean you won't look a certain way.

Sorry but this explanation is even stranger than the first post. LOL.

Greek, Spanish, and Portuguese are "white" ethnicities. Are these ethnicities the "other" that you are talking about? Why would they be an "other?" Someone who racially identifies as white is not void of an ethnic background regardless of whether they know or divulge their ethnic background.

So, are you really just wondering what her specific ethnic background is without assuming that it is a "nonwhite" ethnicity?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

So, are you really just wondering what her specific ethnic background is

Basically. More of an "I wonder" thing than a "She must be mixed because she looks like that"

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Basically. More of an "I wonder" thing than a "She must be mixed because she looks like that"

*sigh of relief*

ETA: I read that her father has an Italian background and read somewhere else that Elizabeth Taylor's ethnic background is "Welsh, Irish, English, Swiss, and Dutch." I don't know how accurate that is but it may explain the "dark features" (including dark hair) that some consider exotic. Makeup can explain the rest.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

*sigh of relief*

ETA: I read that her father has an Italian background and read somewhere else that Elizabeth Taylor's ethnic background is "Welsh, Irish, English, Swiss, and Dutch." I don't know how accurate that is but it may explain the "dark features" (including dark hair) that some consider exotic. Makeup can explain the rest.

It's the Welsh probably as much as the Italian.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Many of the people I've seen with similar features identify as "Greek/Spanish/Portuguese/Black/whatever and white," so it made me wonder if she had a very prominent "other" in her background.

I think I just did a poor job of explaining what I was thinking. I realize that being white doesn't mean you won't look a certain way.

DrPhil -

One of my friends is friends with a Houston-based model, and her FB page shows what I was trying to explain.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stepha...42776545755216

(note -- she is a bikini model, so don't click if you don't want to see the 4 pictures of her showcasing that)

/random bump

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Many of the people I've seen with similar features identify as "Greek/Spanish/Portuguese/Black/whatever and white," so it made me wonder if she had a very prominent "other" in her background.

I think I just did a poor job of explaining what I was thinking. I realize that being white doesn't mean you won't look a certain way.

Completely off topic but funny nevertheless, most of y'all know that I have cousins who are mixed black and white. Most of them are light skinned, as their black side was very light to begin with. My first cousin named her children AA names, as she identified with being black more than white, and didn't want her kids going through the same struggle she did.

At my mother's viewing, I introduced my now-husband to my cousin, Ebony. She is very beautiful, with black hair and grey eyes. When we got back to my house, DH said, "I don't think I've ever met a white woman named Ebony." I replied, "You still haven't."

I still don't know who had the funniest reaction, DH's, or Ebony & her mother!