Bisexual Student Says He Was Harassed by Fraternity

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

How are we supposed to know who to blame! j/k

My guess is that he was still 'on line' or whatever the appropriate terminology is.

This is what I got out of the article
1. Ruiz dropped out because of health concerns over hazing.
2. After he dropped, his pledge brother confidant spilled the beans on him being bisexual.
3. Ruiz goes to the induction ceremony and is on-stage when people in the audience start heckling him/harassing him.

Gay or straight I wouldn't have gone to this type of event had I dropped from the fraternity, the possibility of something awkward or shitty happening is too high.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

This is what I got out of the article
1. Ruiz dropped out because of health concerns over hazing.
2. After he dropped, his pledge brother confidant spilled the beans on him being bisexual.
3. Ruiz goes to the induction ceremony and is on-stage when people in the audience start heckling him/harassing him.

Gay or straight I wouldn't have gone to this type of event had I dropped from the fraternity, the possibility of something awkward or shitty happening is too high.

It doesn't make sense for him to be on stage though, unless we're missing some piece of information. If he were just in the audience it'd be one thing, but that wouldn't make it hazing anymore... although it wouldn't be any more appropriate. It makes it sound like he was a participant.

Blah blah bad source, blah blah

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

This is what I got out of the article
1. Ruiz dropped out because of health concerns over hazing.
2. After he dropped, his pledge brother confidant spilled the beans on him being bisexual.
3. Ruiz goes to the induction ceremony and is on-stage when people in the audience start heckling him/harassing him.

Gay or straight I wouldn't have gone to this type of event had I dropped from the fraternity, the possibility of something awkward or shitty happening is too high.

LOL. It seems as though being on stage is to call out those who dropped line. I can see a chapter doing that to embarass droppers and let other GLOs know this person should not be given a second chance. I don't know why someone would agree to be on stage.

Also, many people who drop will be in the audience (often teary eyed LOL) and sometimes chapters find a way to call those who dropped out in the audience.

[sigmadiva]

Just catching up with this thread. I knew the "hilarity" that would happen, so I just went to bed. Anyway......



True story #1:

There was a young woman going through the MIP of a NPHC sorority chapter on the campus of TAMU. During her MIP process she felt that she was being hazed, so she reported the incident to a regional officer, who I'm told, is her aunt.

As a result, that NPHC sorority chapter was suspended from campus for three years.


True story #2:

My own undergrad chapter was having a problem for a while with former members coming back to try to haze current members. And by come back, I mean they would drive from Dallas and South Houston to College Station just to do this.

At the time I was the undergrad chapter advisor and worked to put an end to it. It got to the point that I told the former members that if they didn't stop I was willing to go so far as to just close the chapter until I felt it ready to be open again.


Point being - No, no one has to suffer at the hands of another, especially if they have the power to change the situation. I think this is going over some of y'all's heads.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Just catching up with this thread. I knew the "hilarity" that would happen, so I just went to bed. Anyway......

No one gives a shit.

Point being - No, no one has to suffer at the hands of another, especially if they have the power to change the situation. I think this is going over some of y'all's heads.

Which is what he did. He turned them in when it targeted him for his orientation.

He was as 'responsible' as you're describing. Is it still his fault he got harassed, or is he off the hook because he didn't wear the short skirt?

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

No one gives a shit.

Apparently you do.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Apparently you do.

No, only care that you're trying, once again, to blame the victim. Which makes you an asshole. And then you try to blame your shortcomings on the rest of us instead of owning them.

Fuck off.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Point being - No, no one has to suffer at the hands of another, especially if they have the power to change the situation. I think this is going over some of y'all's heads.

1. "True stories" and examples clearly aren't your strengths.

2. I don't think you even know what your point is anymore.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

1. "True stories" and examples clearly aren't your strengths.

2. I don't think you even know what your point is anymore.

Shh, it's going over your head. She knows what it's like better than we do.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

1. "True stories" and examples clearly aren't your strengths.

True story #1 was not directed at you.

2. I don't think you even know what your point is anymore.

I do. I can keep up. I don't have to address every issue though.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Just catching up with this thread. I knew the "hilarity" that would happen, so I just went to bed.

Are you looking for a congratulations or something?

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Point being - No, no one has to suffer at the hands of another, especially if they have the power to change the situation. I think this is going over some of y'all's heads.

Just as my comment about majority sympathy went over your head and you thought you were going to school me on the Civil Rights Movement?

What is also going over your head is that this young did come forward in an attempt to impact some change. That's why we're reading that article and typing in this thread. DUHHHH.