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Old 07-25-2009, 08:16 PM
KSigkid KSigkid is offline
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What happened with Bush should sound familiar to those who think Obama is being treated unfairly. The difference that we were initially talking about is that Obama has been touted as a greater speaker, which prompted his administration to constantly make him talk and trip over himself. Bush seemed more of the reluctant speaker. What I perceive to be Obama's eagerness to run his mouth is what pisses me off.
I think another thing that has helped Obama is that there was the immediate perception that he was well-educated and smart, and people were willing to give him more leeway at the start becuase of those points. It's not like with Bush and Kerry, where people were picking at their college transcripts and questioning their intelligence. Obama didn't have those questions to deal with when he started his term.

Every President is treated "unfairly" to a certain extent - they come in with huge expectations, at least partially self-created, and there are many who will be disappointed (either because policy takes longer to implement, or because the people don't agree with the candidate's platform to begin with).
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:45 AM
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I think another thing that has helped Obama is that there was the immediate perception that he was well-educated and smart, and people were willing to give him more leeway at the start becuase of those points. It's not like with Bush and Kerry, where people were picking at their college transcripts and questioning their intelligence. Obama didn't have those questions to deal with when he started his term.

Every President is treated "unfairly" to a certain extent - they come in with huge expectations, at least partially self-created, and there are many who will be disappointed (either because policy takes longer to implement, or because the people don't agree with the candidate's platform to begin with).
There may not be picking at his education, but there is a group of the cuckoo for cocoa puffs who are still questioning his citizenship.
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:13 AM
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There may not be picking at his education, but there is a group of the cuckoo for cocoa puffs who are still questioning his citizenship.
Well yeah, there's that - but luckily the courts have been good at getting rid of those frivolous lawsuits pretty quickly.
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:57 PM
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There may not be picking at his education, but there is a group of the cuckoo for cocoa puffs who are still questioning his citizenship.
Aside from a few extremists, who cares what those guys think anyhow?

I'm not sure whether the question being asked is legitimate. The trouble with all of these cases so far is that they all lack standing. I would think if Hillary Clinton or John McCain brought a lawsuit, there'd be enough to at least survive an FRCP 12(b)(6) motion.
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