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07-25-2009, 09:07 AM
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Well, Obama is better at the whole talkin' thing than Bush . . .
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I find Obama a much better speaker when he isn't speaking ABOUT anything in particular. As long as he isn't trying to actually make a point, just sort of trying to be "generally inspirational and presidential", it's not bad. It's when he has a concrete purpose and is trying to express it. He rambles and does the "generally inspirational" thing instead of just saying whatever the heck it is he's trying to say.
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07-25-2009, 09:09 AM
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Why do I have the feeling that I'm surrounded by Republicans? 
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I find Obama a much better speaker when he isn't speaking ABOUT anything in particular. As long as he isn't trying to actually make a point, just sort of trying to be "generally inspirational and presidential", it's not bad. It's when he has a concrete purpose and is trying to express it. He rambles and does the "generally inspirational" thing instead of just saying whatever the heck it is he's trying to say.
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07-25-2009, 09:29 AM
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I have no idea. I am a Libertarian, and DSTRen13's comment is more about rhetorical style than any political critique. I've heard liberal (don't know that I'd term them Democrats) commentators remark that some of Obama's speeches were lacking in concrete details. But of course, he is hardly the only politician on either side of the aisle to have that problem.
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07-25-2009, 09:37 AM
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Because you subscribe to political divisiveness.
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But of course, he is hardly the only politician on either side of the aisle to have that problem.
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He's the only current president. As with presidents before him, there should be no obvious disclaimers of "well, the president isn't perfect" or "he isn't the only politician with this issue."
Luckily for everyone, Obama's approval ratings are declining as reality has sunk in and the public is taking off the kiddie gloves. That happened before the first 5 months for some of the other presidents.
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07-25-2009, 10:33 AM
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Let me guess,Dr.Phil...you're a card-carrying Republican?
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Because you subscribe to political divisiveness.
He's the only current president. As with presidents before him, there should be no obvious disclaimers of "well, the president isn't perfect" or "he isn't the only politician with this issue."
Luckily for everyone, Obama's approval ratings are declining as reality has sunk in and the public is taking off the kiddie gloves. That happened before the first 5 months for some of the other presidents.
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07-25-2009, 10:42 AM
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Let me guess,Dr.Phil...you're a card-carrying Republican?
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Why would that matter at all? Several other posters have made the point that no matter what anyone's political affiliation, it's a valid criticism.
Stop trying to cause drama or partisanship on this board.
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07-25-2009, 05:43 PM
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No leader of any nation is perfect. However,Obama hasn't been given the chance to do what he promised,and it's not even 2012 yet. At least he's doing the best he can under very...tense times. He's trying to clean up two wars and the economy,which is an ugly mess that Bush left behind. So before we pass judgment on Obama..give him a chance.
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Why would that matter at all? Several other posters have made the point that no matter what anyone's political affiliation, it's a valid criticism.
Stop trying to cause drama or partisanship on this board.
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07-25-2009, 05:53 PM
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No leader of any nation is perfect. However,Obama hasn't been given the chance to do what he promised,and it's not even 2012 yet. At least he's doing the best he can under very...tense times. He's trying to clean up two wars and the economy,which is an ugly mess that Bush left behind. So before we pass judgment on Obama..give him a chance.
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If you are striving for people to be fair to Obama, then you might want to re-think whether Bush and his policies were solely responsible for leaving the economy in a mess.
If you're going to use the-buck-stops-with-the-President standard for Bush, then you're going to have to expect other people to use it with Obama.
ETA: what's Obama doing to clean up the two wars?
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07-25-2009, 05:53 PM
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What does that have to do with his rhetorical style? Are all the press conferences the first year considered mulligans? Was he not aware when he ran for the job that he would be dealing with the economy and two wars?When do we get to hold him accountable for his campaign speeches? What constitutes "enough time"? Is he not to be judged until 2012?
(rhetorical questions, btw)
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07-25-2009, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dreadloc'd Diva
No leader of any nation is perfect. However,Obama hasn't been given the chance to do what he promised,and it's not even 2012 yet. At least he's doing the best he can under very...tense times. He's trying to clean up two wars and the economy,which is an ugly mess that Bush left behind. So before we pass judgment on Obama..give him a chance.
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So, maybe with a two-front war on terrorism and an economy that's in the shitter, our Chief Executive should focus on those issues and not his old buddy Skip.
Also, if you have any historical context about the causes for the economy, President Bush shares just about the same amount of the blame as President Clinton.
Whatever happens with Professor Gates will happen regardless of what the Great Brown Hope has to say about it.
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07-25-2009, 10:47 AM
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Let me guess,Dr.Phil...you're a card-carrying Republican?
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How about you respond to the substance of our posts instead of playing the guessing game and trying to decide if you consider us among the cool people.
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07-25-2009, 05:38 PM
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Calm down..I was being sarcastic.
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How about you respond to the substance of our posts instead of playing the guessing game and trying to decide if you consider us among the cool people.
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07-25-2009, 06:41 PM
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Calm down..I was being sarcastic.
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No one is "not calm" and you would know that if you knew the dynamics of this board.
ETA: I see you're contributing beyond one liners now. You got the point. Good.
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07-26-2009, 02:03 PM
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Let me guess,Dr.Phil...you're a card-carrying Republican?
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^^^^^ drunk off of obama kool aid
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