Chances?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I know that with my sorority, once you get a bid, there are very few circumstances under which my sorority can withhold a NM from being initiated. It can be done, but approval has to be obtained from someone at HQ and everything has to be well documented, as in "Here is this list of member participation points for the month and here are all of the events that Suzy did not attend."

I would assume that it's not the same for fraternities. What are some examples of reasons why you have decided that a pledge shouldn't continue with the program (if you can share and it's not part of privileged info of course)?

It can be as simple as "brotherhood". Now while I try to not take the easy way out and be vulgar, there are certain times when such words or phrases might best describe the situation and be rather succinct. This may be one of those occasions. So in this case, if the pledge "sucks", is a "tool", a "douche-bag" as you will, then when it comes time for the chapter to vote for membership, he may not received the necessary votes to become a member. What that number might be, varies by HQs and chapters. For example, it might be 90% has to vote in favor of membership. Or it might be that one *no* vote is all it takes to deny membership. And for what it is worth, some NICs have that information on their websites while others do not.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Same with my org. If we have a legitimate reason to force someone to leave, then we can do that (with step-by-step documentation to back up our reasoning).

From what violetpretty said, she made it sound like fraternities are just kicking people out because they feel like it. If that's the case, that kind of sucks. And I suppose it could happen.. especially if they don't need to justify their reason with HQ for doing so. If, on the other hand, the pledge gave them a legitimate reason to kick them out, that's understandable.

And basically, that is what is happening. The chapter "feels like it" because the pledge is not meeting the chapter's standards by being a "screw-up". And for NICs, that is often a legitimate reason.