The Term African American

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by Sista

I don't see how colonization could interfere with the idea of Social construction when in fact, we were talking about Social construction in reference to the way blacks in America are viewed as, in terms of race.





I'm sorry, I should have made my self a bit more clear. I used Martin Luther King as an example because he got involved in a struggle where he struggled for all people, not only that, in the future, it could and would be easy to construe his full name for a name belonging to a European. Also, White people love to take credit for doing something as courageous as Martin did. I mentioned Tupac in the same sentence with Martin because I don't know if you have noticed but pretty soon, young blacks will get bored with Rapp music, as black people tend to get bored with many of their creations hence, moving onto something else. When that happens, white people hapily will pick it up and they have already been preparing to do so. White people have been observing how blacks tend to create and create over and over, hence leaving behind what they previously invented. White people will love to be the ones who take over and take full credit for rapp music. Next thing you know, Mackavelli will go from who he originally was, that being a white man, to Tupacs altered ego back to Tupac, in the futre of course, originally, being white. When that happens, of course, white people will have taken over and the black Tupac won't be anything but a myth whereas the true Tupac will be a white man. All of the urban Rapp movies will feature white Tupac...

Ha, ha, ha

Just to point out, the big bad mean white people don't appreciate your descrimination, prejudice, or ignorance any more than minorities appreciate ignorance from white people...and other minorities.

The fact is, conquering peoples generally do some really nasty things. History shows us that, from taking the Americas by force and malice to warring tribes in Africa taking each other by the same methods. No group of people is immune to this sort of behavior if given the chance.

Personally I want no part of credit for rap music. Though it originally offered a platform for political statements it's now been reduced to completely useless filth probably written by a 4th grader huffing glue. It's funny and useless for dry humping at bars and parties, but has very few redeeming qualities otherwise. There are VERY few rap ARTISTS. There are too many rappers to let the real artists shine, unfortunately.

Martin Luther King was a black man and always will be remembered as such. That is the point of his contribution...to fight for basic rights for black people who were treated as second class citizens.

By the way I've never heard anyone, ever, claim that Egyptians were white. The closest to is to hear that Jesus was white. Jesus was Jewish, therefore not Caucasian. As for Egyptians, here is a very concise and well-informed summary:

Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times... [the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990; Brace et al., this volume)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East Africa, Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic (i.e. Nile River) continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions (Trigger 1978; Bard, Snowden, this volume). Language research suggests that this Saharan-Nilotic population became speakers of the Afro-Asiatic languages... Semitic was evidently spoken by Saharans who crossed the Red Sea into Arabia and became ancestors of the Semitic speakers there, possibly around 7000 BC... In summary we may say that Egypt was distinct North African culture rooted in the Nile Valley and on the Sahara.[60]

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by LΩVE

Personally I want no part of credit for rap music. Though it originally offered a platform for political statements it's now been reduced to completely useless filth probably written by a 4th grader huffing glue. It's funny and useless for dry humping at bars and parties, but has very few redeeming qualities otherwise. There are VERY few rap ARTISTS. There are too many rappers to let the real artists shine, unfortunately.

By the way I've never heard anyone, ever, claim that Egyptians were white. The closest to is to hear that Jesus was white. Jesus was Jewish, therefore not Caucasian.

In all honesty you are absolutely correct that most rap is pure crap, but I'd have no problem putting that label on any genre of music. I don't find anything amusing in watching some rocker bite the head of a bat off. I however won't generalize a genre of music based on what some artists might have done in the past.

Didn't really read everything that was said, but it is known that European explorers of the past have made many claims that Egyptians were white. This was also accepted by most people because at the time it was believed that blacks were simply not sophisticated enough to develop such advanced civilizations.

Also, I know many Jews who are in fact white, and I also have an uncle who is a black or African-American and practice the religion of Judaism. He was raised under the religion and was not a convert. I'd also be quick to put money down that most Jew's even in Israel cannot trace their family lineage in Israel back past 1948. Most would more than likely trace back to Europe, or other areas. Fact is, if I wanted to become a Jew I more than likely wouldn’t have a hard time. If I wanted to become white (unless I had Michael Jackson money) it would be next to impossible.