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11-12-2008, 09:33 PM
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I mean, in theory . . . there should be a higher ideal (namely, the betterment of the United States of America) at play, regardless of rhetoric or even personal feelings, no?
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oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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11-12-2008, 09:53 PM
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oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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Bingo....thus the whole point of me posting this thread.
You talk shyte about me last week and now this week you want to be my friend.....
Hand out ready to be shaken but I need to be prepared for the dagger behind your back....as it were.
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11-12-2008, 09:56 PM
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Bingo....thus the whole point of me posting this thread.
You talk shyte about me last week and now this week you want to be my friend.....
Hand out ready to be shaken but I need to be prepared for the dagger behind your back....as it were.
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EXACTLY! and like i said, its not a dem/rep issue, because i said the same thing about Hillary when she was in the primaries...i wonder if that didnt ultimately cost her the vp nomination...
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11-12-2008, 09:57 PM
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EXACTLY! and like i said, its not a dem/rep issue, because i said the same thing about Hillary when she was in the primaries...i wonder if that didnt ultimately cost her the vp nomination...
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Cant walk thru the political playground without getting your shoes dirty.
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11-13-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX
oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.
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So . . . wouldn't that add credibility/legitimacy to the Obama camp?
I mean, the people that believe her as "gospel" clearly aren't smart enough to think critically on their own, according to what you're implying here, so sacrificing her own credibility for (an apparent) holistic or 'greater' good seems like a no-brainer if she ever wants to run again (since she's not really sacrificing anything).
She kind of has to say this, both for her political and patriotic well-being, doesn't she?
Besides this, as much as Palin is indeed awkward, stilted and lost, I don't consider it disingenuous in the slightest to say that you'd work with someone who you feel is a poor choice because it's for the best to do that rather than continue fighting . . . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.
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11-13-2008, 10:48 AM
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So . . . wouldn't that add credibility/legitimacy to the Obama camp?
I mean, the people that believe her as "gospel" clearly aren't smart enough to think critically on their own, according to what you're implying here, so sacrificing her own credibility for (an apparent) holistic or 'greater' good seems like a no-brainer if she ever wants to run again (since she's not really sacrificing anything).
She kind of has to say this, both for her political and patriotic well-being, doesn't she?
Besides this, as much as Palin is indeed awkward, stilted and lost, I don't consider it disingenuous in the slightest to say that you'd work with someone who you feel is a poor choice because it's for the best to do that rather than continue fighting . . . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.
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i dont think some of these people are going to look at it as boosting Obama's credibility at all...they are going to look at it as "staying together for the kids...". this is really just going off of what i have experienced since the election, there are some people, not many, who believe what she said and are HEATED because now they feel they dont know who to trust: Palin, who obviously lied to them, or Obama, who had some pretty scary things said about him. the ones i meet are siding with Palin: she is the "safer" choice in their minds... granted, this is a small group of people, i am hoping that as Jan 20th comes, they will focus on becoming educated and move forward.
and i second the fact that she needs someone like Obama...desperately!
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11-13-2008, 11:07 AM
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. . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.
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Good point to consider...but what do kids do? They see that their parents clearly are not happy and some start to choose sides. The parents appear happy on the outside (the face they show their kids) but on the inside they clearly cannot stand each other and are waiting for the kids to get grown so they can divorce.
Apply that logic to Obama / Palin...the only difference is...the 'kids (us) are grown and have an idea of what we see and what we are willing to tolerate from the 'parents'.
That is, I think the idea that now Palin saying that she wants to work with Obama after just weeks ago smearing him, is not such a good idea IMO
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