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Old 07-09-2008, 03:04 PM
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Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father

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DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:55 PM
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Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago

DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/
Too bad this news came after Patsy died. RIP, Patsy.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:37 PM
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Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death

New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago

DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/

What exactly is the new DNA evidence? There was dna that didn't match the Ramseys years ago.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:51 PM
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What exactly is the new DNA evidence? There was dna that didn't match the Ramseys years ago.
This was your first posting:
"madmax has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Man Held in Slaying of JonBenet Ramsay - in the News & Politics forum of GreekChat.com Forums.

This thread is located at:
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Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Bottom line is, the first and best suspects are always in the family. It's usually a matter of proving that it's not someone from the family than it is. Do I want the Ramseys to have defiled their little girl? No. Do I suspect that they had *something* to do with it? Absolutely.
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Not true. According to FBI crime stats less than 30% of the known homicides were committed by family members."

Just where did you locate your information on this?
I know that 5 years and under:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/children.htm
A parent is the perpetrator in most homicides of children under age 5
Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 --
  • 31% were killed by fathers
  • 29% were killed by mothers
  • 23% were killed by male acquaintances
  • 7% were killed by other relatives
  • 3% were killed by strangers
As for your "new posting", read the story linked or any other news story about it.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:42 PM
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Really Jon, all you had do was point to this quote, instead of making another "refer back to my post" post.

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New DNA tests, which focus on skin cells left behind from a mere touch, point to a mysterious outsider.

"That genetic profile belongs to a male and does not belong to anyone in the Ramsey family,” the district attorney’s office said in a statement. “The unexplained third party DNA on the clothing of the victim is very significant and powerful evidence.”
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:40 PM
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What exactly is the new DNA evidence? There was dna that didn't match the Ramseys years ago.
The new evidence is a method of testing that can tell that a non-Ramsey DNA source pulled down her pajamas. And if I'm remembering correctly, it matches the DNA of the drop of blood they had previously found.

So I guess what's different about how the Ramsey's were excluded before is that the "new" DNA not only exonerates them, but it points to a completely different, but unmatched murderer.
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:34 PM
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The new evidence is a method of testing that can tell that a non-Ramsey DNA source pulled down her pajamas. And if I'm remembering correctly, it matches the DNA of the drop of blood they had previously found.

So I guess what's different about how the Ramsey's were excluded before is that the "new" DNA not only exonerates them, but it points to a completely different, but unmatched murderer.

I still don't buy it. The new DNA matches the drop of blood from the previous DNA. If that is the case then would not the previous DNA have excluded the family? Wasn't there also a hair found on the body that didn't match the family?

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Old 07-11-2008, 02:27 PM
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I still don't get it. The new DNA matches the drop of blood from the previous DNA. If that is the case then would not the previous DNA have excluded the family? Wasn't there also a hair found on the body that didn't match the family?
I really don't know the answer to what you are asking, of course.

My guess is that a hair not matching the family isn't that unusual, particularly because I don't think their was any DNA evidence to match it to anyone else in particular. It's gross to think about, but I think other people's hair being on your clothing isn't nearly as uncommon as we'd like to think.

I suspect that the blood was highly suspicious but that coupled with the evidence that the same person apparently also pulled down her long underwear (not PJs strictly speaking I guess), made the possibility that the family was responsible completely unbelievable.

And there's also the possibility that the letter isn't really based on a significant change in evidence, just the confirmation of existing evidence, and the prosecutor simply felt that the Ramseys had lived under a cloud in the public mind too long considering the evidence that existed. And it's a different DA too from the initial investigation.
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