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06-24-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
Associating the military with female accomplishment. McCain=military Obama= anti-Hillary. This is a clever move IMO.
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Im sorry .....what the f**k does this HAVE to do with politics?
The ONLY other reason why I posted this in the first place is that I have a friend that served with her in the 10th Mtn Div, @ Fort Drum NY many moons ago.
So, please for our enlightenment (or amusement, whichever comes first) please explain how in hell you came up with that????
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06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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Nobody else thinks that this might have happened because the military wants to appear like they aren't sexist? (even though they are)
I think it may be an attempt to bring woman voters into the McCain camp following the defeat of Hillary.
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06-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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Nobody else thinks that this might have happened because the military wants to appear like they aren't sexist? (even though they are)
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Nope. Isn't it possible that she actually deserved it?
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I think it may be an attempt to bring woman voters into the McCain camp following the defeat of Hillary.
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How on earth would this help McCain? He wasn't the one who nominated her. 
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06-24-2008, 03:42 PM
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Nope. Isn't it possible that she actually deserved it?
How on earth would this help McCain? He wasn't the one who nominated her. |
Like I said...for our amusement....
The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2
uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!
You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?
PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....
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Reason: Typing and talking on the phone does not mix!!!!
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06-24-2008, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your bran and shut down the mysogynistic before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....
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I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.
Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.
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06-24-2008, 03:50 PM
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I didn't read mysogyny in his posts. I read conspiracy theorist.
Now, if he had made a joke about how this accomplished female general doesn't suck--because her husband's mistress does--maybe.
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I'll take that too...
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06-24-2008, 04:34 PM
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Like I said...for our amusement....
The woman served for 33 years...how many administrations is that?
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II x 2
uhhhhhhh....I think she is due!!!!
You ever thought about the fact that in what you are saying is sexist to think that the military is being sexist, by promoting her?
PhiGam....can you please do us all a fave and try to coordinate your brain and shut down the mysogynistic side before you post your next statement...it may actually show the rest of us that there is a glimmer of hope that a caveman doesn't exist in that cranium of yours.....
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I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.
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06-24-2008, 04:37 PM
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I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.
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I agree with you. 
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06-24-2008, 05:04 PM
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I didn't say she wasn't deserving, but she can't be the first female in the history of the military who is deserving of a fourth star. If everyone who was deserving had gotten their fourth star then this would be a non-story. I'm not sure how you got misogyny out of my post, I stated facts.
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Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...
Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...
Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....
Uhhh...no....
You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.
Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...
Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.
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06-24-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...
Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...
Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....
Uhhh...no....
You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.
Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...
Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.
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Go take a shot of muscle relaxer or something.
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06-24-2008, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...
Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...
Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....
Uhhh...no....
You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.
Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...
Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.
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Different take on it....woo hoo, DS!
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06-25-2008, 01:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Umm...THAT is the point of the WHOLE story....she is the first WOMAN PERIOD..who has gotten one....but then you go off on some bullshit fishing expedition about how this is a political move trying to win supporters for McCain...Obviously not many people get one especially a woman...
Maybe you should have said what you just said without adding all the extra layers of jackassery in it....then it would make more sense...
Or maybe you thought you was trying to be funny....
Uhhh...no....
You know what...I don't have any more time to entertain your asinine comments today.
Do yourself a solid...click the link and read the entire story...
Ladies, especially those of you that are serving...thank you.
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Wait - you're rambling here in your apparent outrage, but are you really trying to imply that PhiGam was somehow "demeaning" the accomplishments of this woman by implying that her superiors (whom she presumably has no control over) might be waiting to promote her until it is politically expedient for them to do so?
Because that doesn't seem demeaning in the slightest. I think you're getting steamed for really no reason - and certainly the assertion (while unlikely, in my mind) is far from asinine, isn't it?
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06-25-2008, 01:55 PM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned (or did I miss it?) that PhiGam's basic premise is ridiculous in and of itself, regardless of whether it is demeaning or not. To be effective, a political ploy needs to make people more likely to vote for a certain candidate. Does anyone honestly think there are women out there who will decide to vote for McCain simply because the Army decided to promote a deserving woman to 4 star General? None of the women I know are quite that fickle, nor are they quite that illogical as to surmise that A has anything to do with B. If this is a political move intended to benefit McCain, the PR person in charge of it needs to be fired asap.
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06-24-2008, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
Nobody else thinks that this might have happened because the military wants to appear like they aren't sexist? (even though they are)
I think it may be an attempt to bring woman voters into the McCain camp following the defeat of Hillary.
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Oh...this makes more sense than your first attempt. LOL.
The military has been doing the nonsexist (and nonracist) PR thing for years. It isn't safe to assume that this is about that, though. It also isn't safe to assume that the military has pledged allegiance to McCain's campaign. Not impossible but conspiracy theories like that are impossible to prove.
And we all know that the military culture is the way it is regardless of anything else. So opinions shouldn't change because of the existence of this female general.
Congrats to her.
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