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Old 06-01-2008, 09:56 PM
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I agree that he is doing it, but I think he's doing this as a political tactic, and he'll show his true colors as someone who benefits from his connections with corporations and the super-rich.
Fair enough, I think it is simply him showing his true colors of being someone who loathes modern capitalism and favors massive government intervention. Of course, I don't think he'll say this is in the general, so we'll have to say it for him.

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Old 06-01-2008, 10:42 PM
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Fair enough, I think it is simply him showing his true colors of being someone who loathes modern capitalism and favors massive government intervention. Of course, I don't think he'll say this is in the general, so we'll have to see it for him.
You think he even has that much substance? I think he may kind of identify that way because of his background, but what I keep coming back to is the sense that he doesn't really actually believe much of anything or anything that he could be 100% certain that he'd act on. He seems just kind of assembled of platitudes.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:44 AM
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You think he even has that much substance? I think he may kind of identify that way because of his background, but what I keep coming back to is the sense that he doesn't really actually believe much of anything or anything that he could be 100% certain that he'd act on. He seems just kind of assembled of platitudes.
I'm one conservative who thinks the inexperience and lack-of-substance cards are the wrong ones to play. I don't think he's dangerous because he's green, I think he's dangerous because his agenda is too fringe to put on display at this point.
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Old 06-02-2008, 06:51 PM
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I'm one conservative who thinks the inexperience and lack-of-substance cards are the wrong ones to play. I don't think he's dangerous because he's green, I think he's dangerous because his agenda is too fringe to put on display at this point.
I wasn't thinking so much in terms of arguments to make to persuade others which is what I think you are saying with "cards to play"; I'm just constantly reminded about how little is actually there with him.

I don't think Obama and I share a sense of what the government's role ought to be, and that's primarily why I won't vote for him, but when I contrast him with Hillary, who I also wouldn't ever vote for, I'm struck by the contrast. I think she has specific ideas about what government should do and would somewhat ruthlessly get things done, and I'm not even sure if he has the first idea about how to translate the rhetoric and image into actually doing anything.

And while I think Obama's sense of foreign policy is a little delusional in terms of the power of negotiation, the only area where I think his presidency would be truly dangerous is in judicial appointments, which isn't something that fires that many people up these days as far as I know.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:29 PM
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I wasn't thinking so much in terms of arguments to make to persuade others which is what I think you are saying with "cards to play"; I'm just constantly reminded about how little is actually there with him.

I don't think Obama and I share a sense of what the government's role ought to be, and that's primarily why I won't vote for him, but when I contrast him with Hillary, who I also wouldn't ever vote for, I'm struck by the contrast. I think she has specific ideas about what government should do and would somewhat ruthlessly get things done, and I'm not even sure if he has the first idea about how to translate the rhetoric and image into actually doing anything.

And while I think Obama's sense of foreign policy is a little delusional in terms of the power of negotiation, the only area where I think his presidency would be truly dangerous is in judicial appointments, which isn't something that fires that many people up these days as far as I know.
I agree mostly, but I do think Obama has the depth many think he lacks. I just think he is too smart to put it on display.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:48 PM
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I agree mostly, but I do think Obama has the depth many think he lacks. I just think he is too smart to put it on display.
What are you going on? Is it something I could read or is it more from talking to people who aren't really going to go on record?
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:44 PM
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What are you going on? Is it something I could read or is it more from talking to people who aren't really going to go on record?
UGAalum, he's written two books. And they weren't ghostwritten either.

So apparently this "surprise" video is actually Michelle Obama talking about George Bush and saying "Why'd he" not "Whitey"

Unless there's another one which is probably just as silly.
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