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Old 04-23-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS View Post
Seriously, though? If you needed to, you could've clowned her without going the "stupid bitch" route. Especially when your critique of her position is inaccurate.
Actually, she isn't talking out of her ass in that post and most of her posts. She's just making a laundry list, which brings too many factors into the equation and makes it difficult to assess the relative strength of the factors in explaining the "violence problem."
What she said about migration and the eroding of traditional ties is accurate and supported by research. It is the basis for a lot of theory and research. It doesn't mean it applies in 100% of the cases or relates to everyone's experiences, but as I said before in this thread no one cares about everyone's experiences and exceptions to the research-supported "rules."

The issue of migration and ties is the same explanation that is attached to the advancement of societies, in general, and can be used to compare rural vs urban, different levels of urbanity, regional variations, and different nations. For instance, we compare economically developed nations with urbanization like the U.S. and Japan. We find that Japan has a lower crime rate than the U.S., even with high urbanization and development. One explanation for this is Japan's strong family ties and an ability to maintain solidarity and awareness of those around you (attempt to maintain informal social control mechanisms even with increasing residential mobility) even if society is developing. If you can understand that then you can understand the rural vs. urban distinction that applies in a general sense.
My point was that I wanted evidence. And, from what I have seen, there has yet to be any provided by CG. And, I believe that Southern small town ties are as strong as they have ever been. Unless of course, she would provide me with the same information my post was asking for.

Unless someone backs up their point with hard evidence, I will conclude that they are talking out of their ass. I think, perhaps, you missed the sarcasm in my post. The point was that I can say anything as long as I don't give info to back it up. It was an example... I do think she has overstepped her boundaries on rural Southern towns. That doesn't come from any research. Just almost 3 decades years of living in small rural towns in two Southern states. But, you see, I can admit that. I just want her to back her point up. I think she has talked in circles rather than backing up her position of small, rural towns in the South. If it's all just anecdotal evidence like my statement above, fine. But, I would like an explanation.

But, so far, I cannot find where she has given any kind of proof. From what I have seen, she wants to open a discussion, make points, and back away without defending them.
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