Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

According to the NBC news, the raid was organized because of a call from a girl claiming abuse.

According to many news reports I have seen and read, the raid was organized because of years of suspicion about what was going on at the ranch/compound/whatever you want to call it. The call from the girl was simply the trigger that allowed the raid to occur legally.

[Pebcake]

'Years of suspicion' - What a frightening phrase. For years, many in our area have suspected that abuse to children and elders occurs daily in the inner city. Most everyone is aware of it. No one gets together a swat team and pulls out the children. Is it that when one group is targeted, (esp. a group we have suspicions about) we all have to 'save the children'? We don't know what we will do with the children, but we will make a splash. Probably some of the children in the compound have been abused, but probably less than are abused everyday in the inner cities. Abuse, anytime and to anyone, is wrong. But the trauma to the people involved in this 'rescue' is probably worse than any they suffered before. I do not wish to anger anyone, I just think it is easy to quote aritcles and unintentionally harm more than help. Maybe these charges could have been handled differently. Maybe the children not being abused could have avoided the trauma of this upheaval.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

'Years of suspicion' - What a frightening phrase. For years, many in our area have suspected that abuse to children and elders occurs daily in the inner city. Most everyone is aware of it. No one gets together a swat team and pulls out the children. Is it that when one group is targeted, (esp. a group we have suspicions about) we all have to 'save the children'? We don't know what we will do with the children, but we will make a splash. Probably some of the children in the compound have been abused, but probably less than are abused everyday in the inner cities. Abuse, anytime and to anyone, is wrong. But the trauma to the people involved in this 'rescue' is probably worse than any they suffered before. I do not wish to anger anyone, I just think it is easy to quote aritcles and unintentionally harm more than help. Maybe these charges could have been handled differently. Maybe the children not being abused could have avoided the trauma of this upheaval.

What the heck is your problem with the inner cities??? This is coming off as anti-urbanism to me.

[Pebcake]

LOL, 33, that is funny, as I live on a large farm.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Pebcake

But the trauma to the people involved in this 'rescue' is probably worse than any they suffered before.

Somehow I doubt it.

BTW, is your "inner city" abuse occuring in a compound that is essentially closed to outsiders?

Are the children (and the women, for that mattter) allowed to leave? (Not do they lack the ability to leave, but are the actually prevented, at risk of their eternal salvation, from leaving?)

Are the cases of abuse all individual, or is it part of a pervasive social system, perceived to be divinely prescribed, imposed within the compound?

Do you have strong reason to believe that the residents of the compound came there not that long ago because local authorities and local media were looking at them a little too closely where they were before?

Was the leader of the group that the people in your inner city belong to recently convicted for statutory rape for activities directly related to the claims of child abuse in this most recent case?

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

As for the timing and the way this was carried out, I strongly suspect that somewhere in the future, we will find out that there is a lot more beneath the surface of this story than we know right now.

I think you're right about that.