My Sorority Pledge? I Swore Off Sisterhood

[BabyPiNK_FL]

I find it odd (and this is not to blame the woman herself) that she even felt comfortable to join a sorority that was obviously soo judgemental in her mind to begin with. I had stuff happen like that to me in recruitment and obviously I didn't want to go there, but that's just me.

I agree with fantASTic to a degree, people need to take responsibilty for their whereabouts. You have to take care of yourself and be responsible for yourself. You can't just drink and expect anyone to take care of you, I don't care where you are. Even I don't really pay any mind to my drunk friends (and I stopped trying a long time ago). I'm usually the only one fully sober and I can't be bothered to run around and care for a bunch of people who aren't concerned with their welfare. I went out to have a good time too, not to babysit! That is why both men and women need to learn to make better life decisions.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

I agree with fantASTic to a degree, people need to take responsibilty for their whereabouts. You have to take care of yourself and be responsible for yourself. You can't just drink and expect anyone to take care of you, I don't care where you are. Even I don't really pay any mind to my drunk friends (and I stopped trying a long time ago). I'm usually the only one fully sober and I can't be bothered to run around and care for a bunch of people who aren't concerned with their welfare. I went out to have a good time too, not to babysit! That is why both men and women need to learn to make better life decisions.

I agree about personal responsibility, but as a note my friends/family and I have "rules" so to speak when we go out. You come as you go, i.e. if we came together we leave together, no if and or buts about it. What she does after she gets home is her business. Also, the friends that tend to get shitfaced when they drink, stay HOME when we go out because we don't want to babysit all nite. Of course someone almost always ends up drinking more than they intended, but we tend to be really strong about cutting someone off, and when necessary taking them home if it gets outta hand. It sucks when you have to cut your night short but in the end it seems more worth me being temporarily mad at a friend about her drunken behavior, than being upset about things that could happen to her if we just left her on her own.

[Little32]

Wow.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

I agree about personal responsibility, but as a note my friends/family and I have "rules" so to speak when we go out. You come as you go, i.e. if we came together we leave together, no if and or buts about it. What she does after she gets home is her business. Also, the friends that tend to get shitfaced when they drink, stay HOME when we go out because we don't want to babysit all nite. Of course someone almost always ends up drinking more than they intended, but we tend to be really strong about cutting someone off, and when necessary taking them home if it gets outta hand. It sucks when you have to cut your night short but in the end it seems more worth me being temporarily mad at a friend about her drunken behavior, than being upset about things that could happen to her if we just left her on her own.

Oh trust me honey, I never arrive with them and I never leave with them. They are just my friends who happen to be there at the same time. I drive with my bf or by myself, not with people who don't possess the ability to party responsibly 100% of the time. I don't babysit, I will not go out of my way to protect you from yourself. I tried and it got nasty. So now that's just my policy. Take care of yourself. You're a damn adult. That's policy.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

To be brutally honest, I'm getting very tired of women these days claiming anything and everything was rape. I'm not saying the fraternity man didn't rape her; he did, if he had sex with her [that part was really ambiguous to me]. But to accept NO responsibility is foolish.

It's come to a point where my male friends have to check IDs to make sure she's telling the truth that she's over 18 [especially for freshmen], make sure she has consumed not a drop of alcohol, AND make sure that she won't regret it tomorrow. That's a burden, considering all those are things that SHE should control. I'm tired of hearing stories of men accused of "gray rape"; "I invited him into my room, we were making out and ended up having sex. I totally regret it! He raped me!" We shouldn't just assume that everyone who claims they were raped was, indeed, raped.

This stuff actually happens. And it's ridiculous. A false claim of rape, even if he's not convicted, can ruin a man's life. Ladies: would you REALLY trust someone if you found out that he'd been accused of rape, even if he had been proven innocent? I wouldn't.

I agree with what you're saying. A teacher in my high school retired early because of a false accusation of indecently touching a girl. He had been with the district for about 30 years and the girl was getting revenge on him because he disciplined her boyfriend.

BUT... your first paragraph is why many girls who really ARE raped won't report it. It's a sad, lose-lose situation.

[akdphi_cherry]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

I agree about personal responsibility, but as a note my friends/family and I have "rules" so to speak when we go out. You come as you go, i.e. if we came together we leave together, no if and or buts about it. What she does after she gets home is her business. Also, the friends that tend to get shitfaced when they drink, stay HOME when we go out because we don't want to babysit all nite. Of course someone almost always ends up drinking more than they intended, but we tend to be really strong about cutting someone off, and when necessary taking them home if it gets outta hand. It sucks when you have to cut your night short but in the end it seems more worth me being temporarily mad at a friend about her drunken behavior, than being upset about things that could happen to her if we just left her on her own.

I wasn't at all surprised to see you're Theta Nu Xi

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by akdphi_cherry

I wasn't at all surprised to see you're Theta Nu Xi

And that is because?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

And that is because?

Because she couldn't resist making a superfluous comment.




[Irony of post fully intended.]

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Because she couldn't resist making a superfluous comment.




[Irony of post fully intended.]

I guess so...still waiting to hear what she has to say. The funny thing the stance I posted has less to do with being in TNX then it does with good "home" training that was instilled well before I became a member of TNX.

[akdphi_cherry]

Aha, I didn't mean it was *because* you were a member, I meant that every one I've met has been totally classy.