Vick indicted in dog fighting case

[sigmadiva]

I'm a Texas Aggie and I'm offended. Not so much that it is 'just a t-shirt', but what the t-shirt represents - that Tech should do to the Aggies what Vick did to those dogs. To me that is what the t-shirt implies.

To make light of how the dogs were treated by Vick and his associates is just tasteless and tacky. If these fraternity men are all about honor, truth and whatnot, then they would have never thought to do the shirt.

[genesis412]

Someone will always be offended, no matter what is done. The shirts could have daises and monkeys and someone will find a reason to be offended. Like I said, it's not like they're actually going to do what Vick did. Why are so many Americans sensitive to everything? People (in general) really need to grow thicker skin. Now, if the Theta Chis or whomever printed the tees do partake in dog fighting, then I can see a reason for reprimand. If it was THAT big of the deal, the company that printed the shirts would not have done so.

I am an animal lover but I personally don't see what the big deal is. No animals were harmed in the making of the t-shirts.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by genesis412

Someone will always be offended, no matter what is done. The shirts could have daises and monkeys and someone will find a reason to be offended. Like I said, it's not like they're actually going to do what Vick did. Why are so many Americans sensitive to everything? People (in general) really need to grow thicker skin. Now, if the Theta Chis or whomever printed the tees do partake in dog fighting, then I can see a reason for reprimand. If it was THAT big of the deal, the company that printed the shirts would not have done so.

I am an animal lover but I personally don't see what the big deal is. No animals were harmed in the making of the t-shirts.

No sweat. Some people have empathy, some people don't. :shrugs:

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I'm a Texas Aggie and I'm offended. Not so much that it is 'just a t-shirt', but what the t-shirt represents - that Tech should do to the Aggies what Vick did to those dogs. To me that is what the t-shirt implies.

Maybe it's a metaphor? Or, y'know, not literal?

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

To make light of how the dogs were treated by Vick and his associates is just tasteless and tacky. If these fraternity men are all about honor, truth and whatnot, then they would have never thought to do the shirt.

Tasteless and tacky does not mean dishonorable or deceitful. This is a total strawman.

"Making light" of something is pretty much the American way - should I become moribund every time I'm around a dog? Maybe I'll take a moment of silence for their pitbull brethren . . .

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Maybe it's a metaphor? Or, y'know, not literal?



Tasteless and tacky does not mean dishonorable or deceitful. This is a total strawman.

"Making light" of something is pretty much the American way - should I become moribund every time I'm around a dog? Maybe I'll take a moment of silence for their pitbull brethren . . .

Do as you wish. Another great American way. I just expressed my feelings on the topic.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Do as you wish. Another great American way. I just expressed my feelings on the topic.

I agree that you can express your feelings, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to question the honor or trustworthiness of a group based on an inappropriate t-shirt design.

It seems like you're allowing other feelings to creep into this discussion.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I agree that you can express your feelings, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to question the honor or trustworthiness of a group based on an inappropriate t-shirt design.

I can and I did.

It seems like you're allowing other feelings to creep into this discussion.

Of course, they are my feelings. I do with them as I please.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I can and I did.

OK - I'll try another angle.

How does an inappropriate t-shirt relate at all to founding ideals of truth and honor? This was silly and ill-advised, but I cannot see any way in which it is dishonorable. Why do you feel the way you do?

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

OK - I'll try another angle.

How does an inappropriate t-shirt relate at all to founding ideals of truth and honor? This was silly and ill-advised, but I cannot see any way in which it is dishonorable. Why do you feel the way you do?

'cuz

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I'm a Texas Aggie and I'm offended. Not so much that it is 'just a t-shirt', but what the t-shirt represents - that Tech should do to the Aggies what Vick did to those dogs. To me that is what the t-shirt implies.

To make light of how the dogs were treated by Vick and his associates is just tasteless and tacky. If these fraternity men are all about honor, truth and whatnot, then they would have never thought to do the shirt.

Be honest. You're just upset because A&M students have a freakish obsession with a dog that is mildly disturbing.


Maybe I should try to put a stop to A&M's "Saw 'Em Off" stickers with our mascot's horns cut in half. As a Texas student and lover of all things bovine it shocks and appalls me.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Be honest. You're just upset because A&M students have a freakish obsession with a dog that is mildly disturbing.

No more disturbing that U Texas' freakish obsession with a cow. Tell me again, how did Bevo get it's name.....?

Maybe I should try to put a stop to A&M's "Saw 'Em Off" stickers with our mascot's horns cut in half. As a Texas student and lover of all things bovine it shocks and appalls me.

Your school tried that already, and failed. But hey, maybe you can get that movement started again.

[Tom Earp]

Sent to me. Do not answer me but the issue!



This was written to the head of the NAACP in Atlanta on the Michael Vick affair.

I love it when a guy can gently yet logically put things into perspective.

Saturday, August 18, 2007 An Open Letter To The

Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP



Dear Dr. R L White, Head of the Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP,



My name is Mike. I am 27, and I am neither a member of your organization nor a resident of Atlanta.

Normally I wouldn't bother you, but then I came across this article, and it compelled me to write.



Since I am white, I am going to tread carefully, so as not to offend your gentle sensibilities.

But, Dr. White, you are a stupid shit.



Speaking for white people everywhere, let me fill you in on something. This case was not a race issue. It was about killing dogs. And if there is one thing people don't stand for, regardless of race, it's killing dogs. You compared it to deer hunting. Again, Dr. White, you are a stupid shit. When was the last time a deer greeted you at the door when you got home from work? Or curled up next to you and gently nuzzled in to take a nap? Dogs are pets, you moron. They aren't meant to be killed for sport. The failure to make this distinction only makes you look stupider. Sorry, I lost my temper there. Here's the thing, Dr. White. The reason people were outraged by this was because he killed dogs. If Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Favre had done it, the reaction would have been the same, I guarantee you. The difference is, had Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Favre done this, you wouldn't see white supporters rallying behind them, proclaiming he was innocent in the face of mountains of damning evidence, supporting him regardless of the outcome. Let me let you in on a secret about white people; when one of our own makes us look bad, we condemn him and disown them. I suggest you adopt a similar policy. If your group's mission is truly to advance "colored" people (your word, not mine) you'd disassociate from the idiots in your race. It can't go wrong, trust me.



Anyway, Dr. White, I don't want this to come off as racist, because it isn't. Michael Vick is a despicable person who happens to be black. The sooner you realize that, the less of a stupid shit you'll look

[JonoBN41]

I like it.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

No more disturbing that U Texas' freakish obsession with a cow. Tell me again, how did Bevo get it's name.....?

I am a Silver Spur and help care for BEVO and even I can say with confidence that no such "obsession" exists with BEVO. A&M is a giant cult. Not arguable.

This is scary:

"Reveille is considered a cadet general and the highest ranking member in the Corps of Cadets. To designate her rank, Reveille wears 5 diamonds on her maroon-and-white blanket. Freshmen cadets are required to address her as "Miss Rev, ma'am." Reveille is the only animal on campus, other than service animals, who is permitted to enter any campus building. So as not to inconvenience her, if Reveille decides to sleep on a cadet's bed, that cadet is required to sleep on the floor. By tradition, if she barks in class, that session is canceled. Reveille has her own cell phone, operated by the mascot corporal, and her own student identification card."

........and actually, the first Longhorn to be named BEVO appeared during halftime of the 1916 A&M/Texas game in which we would win 22-7. Ben Dyer, editor of the Texas Exes Magazine, is responsible for the moniker.

February of 1917 is when A&M students branded him "13-0". BEVO then got moved to a ranch 60 miles outside of Austin because of rumors that A&M was planning on stealing him. After WWI the original BEVO was fattened up and eaten because it was costing the University too much money. BBQ from him was served at the 1920 UT Football Banquet and Aggies were invited to attend and eat the side that they branded. We also presented A&M with the part of the hide that had the brand on it.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by macallan25

A&M is a giant cult.

No we're not. Texas Aggies just have a love and devotion to our school like no other.