NPHC Secretiveness, Insularity, Etc.

[AKA_Monet]

I am sorry!!! This is the kind of crap we deal with on the AKA Ave. constantly even though we posted our rules announcements and stickies:

Hello all. It is summertime and so as I prepare to go back to school I have the intent on trying join the sorority. The only problem is that my school is very hush hush when it comes to sororities and fraternities. especially sororities. They dont post signs for the interest meeting/rush or have any information in the student activities. from what i hear, you have to know someone in the sorority and trust them in order to find out the info. My problem is that i do not know any AKA'S. well, i know one actually who i am okay friends with, but not close. but can you please tell me how i should approach her? what is appropriate to say and not to say. i just want to know when the interest meeting is. im pretty sure the meeting would not be on campus but at some secret location off campus. and i am not a legacy, does that set me back in terms of chances? because at the school i attend there are ALOT of legacies who im sure would attend rush.

Some members of NPC are very helpful with us. But this is against Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. standards. No members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. will EVER answer these questions because it risks our expulsion as members.

Deletion of a thread is easier.

Besides ALL the information is in http://www.aka1908.com.

Those are OUR rules to be members of my Sorority. End of discussion.

[L.O.C.K.]

AKA_Monet, you're definitely right that not every Black person (or Latino/a, Asian, etc) will join an organization focusing on their community.

And a question (b/c I haven't really heard of this) how are NIC orgs changing their recruitment strategies? I haven't ever seen them at any cultural organizations participating (like our NAACP's Soul Review for example) so I'm just wondering.

And yes, the PWI thing is interesting. Definitely a very different culture than an HBCU. I've noticed a lot of girls on my campus who want to join a D4 sorority but approach it in totally the wrong way...most times they don't succeed in obtaining membership.

But I definitely think the culture of a PWI (and NPC/NIC Greek Life) influences how a person might attempt to join an NPHC organization b/c they think that Greeks might all have the same recruitment process.

Pz
Nate

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

And a question (b/c I haven't really heard of this) how are NIC orgs changing their recruitment strategies?

Well, just look in the opposite direction with Pi Kappa Alpha on Howard University's campus... And when these young men became members of this particular fraternity, the national office was ecstatic! Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

But it was VERY EASY for the Pikes to recruit these young men and entice them to join. It wasn't a difficult choice full of turmoil to join this fraternity. And I am sure there was something they offered to them to go all the way... I don't how they could have became a D9 Fraternity member... But what do I know

All I am saying is the IFC can put a little effort into it IF THEY WANTED TO and there were be major recruitment of ALL ethnic groups into their organizations at the collegiate level...

However, from a kids point of view, oh, they are are quick to learn... Hayle, they got accepted into these schools and nowadays, they don't accept dummies...

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Well, just look in the opposite direction with Pi Kappa Alpha on Howard University's campus... And when these young men became members of this particular fraternity, the national office was ecstatic! Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

But it was VERY EASY for the Pikes to recruit these young men and entice them to join. It wasn't a difficult choice full of turmoil to join this fraternity. And I am sure there was something they offered to them to go all the way... I don't how they could have became a D9 Fraternity member... But what do I know

All I am saying is the IFC can put a little effort into it IF THEY WANTED TO and there were be major recruitment of ALL ethnic groups into their organizations at the collegiate level...

However, from a kids point of view, oh, they are are quick to learn... Hayle, they got accepted into these schools and nowadays, they don't accept dummies...

Those men were an interest group that sought Pike, not the other way around.

Regarding "how" some of them became Kappas.... I am assuming that the Pike colonization process (like the APO extension process) culminates with initiation and chartering. Theoretically, they were free to leave the group and pledge any other organization as they were not initiates yet. (Again, speculation.)

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Those men were an interest group that sought Pike, not the other way around.

Why did they choose the Men of Pike? Nothing is wrong with with their choice. My issue is when the National Offices were informed of this interest group you had better believe a huge RED carpet was rolled out for them... Basically, allowing them to skate...

It is my understanding that when these boys became members, the real Greek Life Commitment was very different than what they fantasized as to how it ought to be.

Albeit, I admit it was a poor example, however, I still contend that if the IFC/NPC put some effort in their diversity marketing, they could garner the kinds of members they seek.

What will happen to us and the MCGLO's? Personally, in my opinion, we offer something completely different.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Why did they choose the Men of Pike? Nothing is wrong with with their choice. My issue is when the National Offices were informed of this interest group you had better believe a huge RED carpet was rolled out for them... Basically, allowing them to skate...

It is my understanding that when these boys became members, the real Greek Life Commitment was very different than what they fantasized as to how it ought to be.

Albeit, I admit it was a poor example, however, I still contend that if the IFC/NPC put some effort in their diversity marketing, they could garner the kinds of members they seek.

What will happen to us and the MCGLO's? Personally, in my opinion, we offer something completely different.

I doubt Pike violated it's colonization procedure because there was an interest group at a HBCU. There's not really "skating" in NIC fraternities, not in the same way as NPHC.

In my experience, on campuses that do not have MCGLOs and/or a strong NPHC presence, the fraternities are about as diverse as the school is. The sororities are as well. This is in the Midwest and YMMV elsewhere. Point being, I think they're getting the members they seek.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Now, we find out some of them jumped ship and decided to join a D9 fraternity...

I thought that NPHC organizations didn't accept people who held membership in NPC/NIC organizations? Or does that only hold true for the sororities and not the fraternities?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I thought that NPHC organizations didn't accept people who held membership in NPC/NIC organizations? Or does that only hold true for the sororities and not the fraternities?

As I said in my post, it is not known whether the members of the Pike colony were initiated members. If they were not initiates, that would generally not preclude them from becoming members of another fraternity.

However, I do not know if that was the case.

But no, NPHC fraternities do not allow it either.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I am sorry!!! This is the kind of crap we deal with on the AKA Ave. constantly even though we posted our rules announcements and stickies:



Some members of NPC are very helpful with us. But this is against Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. standards. No members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. will EVER answer these questions because it risks our expulsion as members.

Deletion of a thread is easier.

Besides ALL the information is in http://www.aka1908.com.

Those are OUR rules to be members of my Sorority. End of discussion.

Ya see, this is what I'm talking about. What makes this girl think that the interest meeting will be in some "secret" off campus location? This just proves my theory that it's non-greeks (for the most part) and their lack of education regarding the NPHC, that lends to rumors and untruths. We're NOT secret societies but you'd think we were the way people talk. If this girl just went to the AKA website or the website of any NPHC org (and it's not like we don't have several websites out there with the membership procedures plain for everyone to see), she would find out what the procedures are and what she needs to do to pursue membership. People need to stop being lazy and take a little initiative to educate themselves about something that they plan on joining for LIFE.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I am sorry!!! This is the kind of crap we deal with on the AKA Ave. constantly even though we posted our rules announcements and stickies:

Some members of NPC are very helpful with us. But this is against Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. standards. No members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. will EVER answer these questions because it risks our expulsion as members.

Deletion of a thread is easier.

Besides ALL the information is in http://www.aka1908.com.

Those are OUR rules to be members of my Sorority. End of
discussion.

Yup. It took me about 3 minutes on your website to find out how I'd attempt to join AKA were I interested and eligible. AKA_Monet, it sounds like the poster you're quoting didn't even have the courage to ask her acquaintances within the sorority when and where their interest meeting would be held. And that isn't something that anyone online could help her with.

Honestly, you'd think people's brains were powered by little gerbils in wheels.

[ladygreek]

Come on sistergreeks,
Let's be honest here. You know we all have secret rushes, in a location far from campus only to be known by certain folx. And at these rushes we do these secret ceremonies dressed in all black with a single spotlight on the attendees. As while I can't tell details, suffice it to say they involve the elements of the universe--Earth, Wind and Fire.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Come on sistergreeks,
Let's be honest here. You know we all have secret rushes, in a location far from campus only to be known by certain folx. And at these rushes we do these secret ceremonies dressed in all black with a single spotlight on the attendees. As while I can't tell details, suffice it to say they involve the elements of the universe--Earth, Wind and Fire.

Dang LG....you let the cat out of the bag.



The bolded part made me want to burst out in song
Stairway to heaven....OK I'm going to pull out a CD now!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This just proves my theory that it's non-greeks (for the most part) and their lack of education regarding the NPHC, that lends to rumors and untruths...People need to stop being lazy and take a little initiative to educate themselves about something that they plan on joining for LIFE.

And it is these wannabe perp non-greeks that ain't ever attended anybody's informational or rush that promote this junk!!! That's what get's me...

Why oh why did "THEY" make it "open"...

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

Honestly, you'd think people's brains were powered by little gerbils in wheels.

Let's just say that the elevator does not go to the top of her stairs... Or not all her oars are in the water...

Watch, she'll roll in here cursing us out because I put her on blast...

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Come on sistergreeks,
Let's be honest here. You know we all have secret rushes, in a location far from campus only to be known by certain folx. And at these rushes we do these secret ceremonies dressed in all black with a single spotlight on the attendees. As while I can't tell details, suffice it to say they involve the elements of the universe--Earth, Wind and Fire.

Hehehe.... Cemeteries can become your best friend at midnight... Oh, wait, that's hazing now...

We are going to honor our ancestors with a revival at Mt. Hope Mortuary...

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Come on sistergreeks,
Let's be honest here. You know we all have secret rushes, in a location far from campus only to be known by certain folx. And at these rushes we do these secret ceremonies dressed in all black with a single spotlight on the attendees. As while I can't tell details, suffice it to say they involve the elements of the universe--Earth, Wind and Fire.

I'm sorry but you'll have to speak for your own organization on this one. Sigma Gamma Rho does not hold their rushes in secret locations only known to certain folx. Our informal rushes or interest meetings are open to the public and anyone can attend. The undergrads post fliers and posters all around campus for people to see and encourage people (women) to come and learn more about SGRho in an informal setting. However, the formal rush and interview thereafter are by invitation only.

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I'm sorry but you'll have to speak for your own organization on this one. Sigma Gamma Rho does not hold their rushes in secret locations only known to certain folx. Our informal rushes or interest meetings are open to the public and anyone can attend. The undergrads post fliers and posters all around campus for people to see and encourage people (women) to come and learn more about SGRho in an informal setting. However, the formal rush and interview thereafter are by invitation only.

It was a joke.