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Old 08-03-2007, 01:46 PM
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I'd like to see the books too, but I am unsure of which level of mastership and stewardship I must attain before one can be revealed to me!
You should try Scientology, they are all about that.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:27 PM
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Sorry, but not needed.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:29 PM
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Oh, I am not into that either!

Not my thing!
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:31 PM
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Scientology, oh man! DON'T get me started.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:46 PM
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Y'all should read Jon Wood's blog on the True Brother Initiative. It's damn good.

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Old 08-03-2007, 07:16 PM
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"my ever-increasing idealism, I’ve been that one brother who’s constantly the buzzkill mentioning things like “ideals” and “practice what you preach”… therefore, I’m afraid that when I go back, I’m going to be confronted with the same brick walls I’ve always been;"

THAT'S the problem with HQ. HQ and it's policies cater to a very specific, small percentage of our general fraternity; the "ideal" brother. 99% of us don't care about "honor" and "courage". We're realists. We're in college, not some knight in some medival fairy book, or some superhero from the 50's.

I hate to say it, but there are always 2 or 3 guys in every chapter that are the same exact personality as the kid that spoke up on a Friday afternoon saying "TEACHER! You forgot to assign our homework for the weekend!"

The same guys that will go up to you while you are drinking on a Friday night and hitting on a chick to say "Remember GammaZeta, we must show true virtue as brothers, even when socializing with the opposite sex. Honor, virtue, honesty...that is a True Brother." DUDE, SHUT UP!!!! Take off you LXA Super Brother Cape for one friggin' night.

But they are the most dedicated. Since they want to continue that dedication, they usually end up working at HQ. Therefore, the programs that are made are targeted at that type of brother, since that is the type of brother that made the program.

If they want a successful program, get the guy that might owe some dues, the guy that may drink a bit too much, the guy with a C average, the guy that doesn't hold office and the guy that misses some meetings. Let the AVERAGE member develop a program for the AVERAGE brotherhood.

There is a balance in the brotherhood. You have the "ideal" brothers that are the most responsible, etc. Then you have the "total fuck-ups", they usually provide comic relief, throw good parties and bring over the girls. But then you have the "average" brother, the guys that go to meetings, help out, do their part and are pretty good guys most of the time, but DON'T go to national meetings, who can't name the members of the High Zeta, don't go and print out the C and C for the whole house the minute it's available. Those are the "True" brothers that I feel the "True Brother" program COMPLETELY excluded.

I guess I am on the bottom average of that type. If I had a choice of going out on a Friday night, getting drunk and hooking up with some bar sluts, or staying in to wake up at 9 a.m. on Saturday to participate in "True Brother".......I'll see you at the bar. You know what, if we asked 100 brothers the same question, I would see 95 brothers at the bar with me.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:01 AM
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If they want a successful program, get the guy that might owe some dues, the guy that may drink a bit too much, the guy with a C average, the guy that doesn't hold office and the guy that misses some meetings. Let the AVERAGE member develop a program for the AVERAGE brotherhood.
If you want a fraternity full of guys who don't pay dues, drink too much, get bad grades, won't hold office, and miss meetings, that's exactly what you should do. If I had wanted an "AVERAGE brotherhood," I wouldn't have joined Lambda Chi. Try coming up with some party chants that emphasise how average we are. One of my goals as an alumni advisor is to show the undergraduates in our chapter that there is a standard of quality higher than "good enough."

The comments I've been reading on this board (from guys who don't have all the info yet) only serve to remind me how much we really do need TBI. Thank you for that.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:16 PM
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Oh Honkey, you're just trying to get me going. Nice try.

What I say is the truth. Like it or not. I have been to two international conferences, several regional and I have made it to level 3. I have the certificate with the 3 shiny seals hanging right next to me. I've probably been to more conferences than most members. But what does going to international conferences mean? You traveled a long way to have a presentation? Hanging out with the other brothers was a blast, but most of the time it was just fluff.

See, your argument is to simply insult me, but you have not said one thing to prove me wrong. In fact, you have made my statement stronger. Could you be one of those "extreme" brothers no one likes? You rely on profanity and insults. That is why I will always be a superior brother to you.

And obviously you can't read. So tell me, all brothers are the same in their dedication and support? You don't think there are different levels? So every brother is as dedicated as you? Wow, I would love to see your chapter. Somehow I imagine it to be like a scene from the Stepford Wives. What are you, all zombies or robots?

Maybe your attitude is what almost completely sank HQ in the first place. Follow without question. Accept what is told to you.

You can attack my chapter all you want if it makes you feel better. Considering for the past 20 years we have scored above average on G.P.A, risk management and the North American Food Drive, as well as producing some of the most successful brothers from any chapter, you can only wish you came from the same pedigree as me.

EDIT: Seems that someone has decided to take down Honky's post with foul and filthy language in it. Oh well, I thought it was a great representation of what type of a "true" brother Honky really is, using such disgusting language. It makes me sad that such people are allowed to represent LXA using such horrible language.

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