Dirty Rush

[FaithHopeLove]

I am young (just going to be a freshman), so maybe having not been Gree yet, I am wrong, but the "dirty rush" regulations seem overbearing.

I think the movements towards no frills rush and all of that jazz almost seem to just be less fun. I know all panhel. wants all sororities to have a fair playing field to get members so they want recruitment to be as fair and level as possible where sororities can't win members simply through a fancy rush or by sweet talking. However, I feel like it gets to the point where it is stifling.

I think that having a silence during rush week makes sense, but to start it a month before is rediculous. If a PMN has friends in XYZ, it will influence their decision to some extent regardless of whether or not that friend was allowed to talk to them troughout July.

I understand also why members cannot promise invitations/ bids as - once number allotments whittles down the list - they may have lied to the PNM. However, I think it is crazy that members have to think twice about whether or not they can say something like "Hope to see you tomorrow." That is being friendly and kid to the rushee.

I guess I just think that when I am (hopefully) a sister, it will seem rediculous how fine the line is between a friendly and dirty rush

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by FaithHopeLove

I guess I just think that when I am (hopefully) a sister, it will seem rediculous how fine the line is between a friendly and dirty rush

I think when (or if) you become a sister, you will feel differently about the situation. Having been in situations where other chapters were "dirty rushing," I know that it can be extremely disheartening when you have put a lot into recruitment. That is why the regulations are there. Not to be mean, but it is somewhat difficult to understand unless you have been a part of recruitment, on BOTH sides.

[UGAalum94]

Okay, I am obviously not going to be dirty rushing anyone, but I frequently spend time in the summer talking up Greek life to girls who I think would be great members but think recruitment is only for Barbies.

And the idea that someone would have a policy that just generally defined that alums can't talk to PNM rivals the policy against certain types of drinking glasses for "referencing alcohol" for dumbest recruitment policy ever.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

And the idea that someone would have a policy that just generally defined that alums can't talk to PNM rivals the policy against certain types of drinking glasses for "referencing alcohol" for dumbest recruitment policy ever.

I agree with you on this one. I've even heard that on some campuses chapters are penalized if PNMs mention speaking to Greek family members and family friends! For instance, if Suzie's mom's best friend is an XYZ and she is overheard by her Pi Chi while telling another PNM that she talked to that XYZ alum about her party schedule, the Pi Chi would then be bound by the strict rule to turn in XYZ for a recruitment violation.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I agree with you on this one. I've even heard that on some campuses chapters are penalized if PNMs mention speaking to Greek family members and family friends! For instance, if Suzie's mom's best friend is an XYZ and she is overheard by her Pi Chi while telling another PNM that she talked to that XYZ alum about her party schedule, the Pi Chi would then be bound by the strict rule to turn in XYZ for a recruitment violation.

That's just insane.

I don't think that parents and adults should micro-manage a PMNs recruitment or anything, but if it's PNM initiated contact with someone that she knew before who is not a student at the university at the time, I think it's really unlikely to be dirty rushing and it's foolish of the college to try to regulate it.

I think it's great that recruitment is a scheduled and limited series of events and contacts between active sorority women and PNM during the rush process. But get into regulating contacts beyond that seems goofy.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

On our campus we recently changed the rules because it basically consisted of almost three months of "let's avoid all rho gammas and pi chis".

Now we have something called Positive Panhellenic Contact. We talk, we laugh, in and out of our letters on campus, but we do not discuss recruitment/PNMs/anything negative or rude, etc.

We don't go out (off campus) together with letters or whatever but we can go out until the Rho Gammas receive their list of women and after that point it's strict silence. You still can't say "See you tomorrow!" to a PNM after a party or ask where she's attending that night.

I pretty much hated the rules and did my own version of Positive Pan. Contact because PNMs were getting creeped out. We looked like a bunch of frigid bitches that hated each other all summer before. You'd see people running past their Rho Gammas with eyes averted because they were afraid to even look at each other. (Can you make it more obvious? ). I have no problem walking, hugging/kissing/greeting any sorority woman I know because not only are they my constituents, they are my friends. And if some PNM decides that she's certain I'm an XYZ or whatever because she saw me talking to one and then that's what she wants to be, then so be it~hope she has fun on bid day!

[Zillini]

Every Recruitment rule was put in place for valid reasons. 1) To protect a pnm from unfairly and insincerely getting her hopes up only to be disappointed if a bid from ABC doesn't come. 2) To insure that the recruitment process is fair to all Chapters participating. The problem is that it seems like some campuses have gone overboard in enforcing a few of these. I'm sure we've all heard stories of rule enforcement gone amok, getting fined for things that are in reality insignificant and practically uncontrolable.

My personal pet peeve is the Recruitment Rule where you get fined if a pnm leaves the house with a "favor" which has now been interpreted to include a napkin or cup or even a kleenex. I have to wonder if some pnm would seriously keep or cut a house because she left with a used kleenex in her hand? Heck, I doubt even a napkin embossed with the Chapter's name would hold that much sway over a pnm.

Oops, sorry. /tangent