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07-18-2007, 09:18 PM
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Heathens? Holier than thou attitudes? Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about. First of all the organization, just like the church, are the people that form it.
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No, the Church is the Body of Christ; it is by Scriptural definition more than just the people who form it. Perhaps it is you who do not fully understand what the Christian Church is about?
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These women are not holier than though, nor have that attitude . . .
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This from someone who said "Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about."
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We can not speak for other Christian Fraternities and Sororities, because even with them, there will be differences and similarities. But that does not make us enemies...We are all Sisters and Brothers in Christ and should love each other accordingly. Not try to tear each other down for things we don't undrerstand, nor judge each other.
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Perhaps you ought to mention that to your sister Kelouis75, since she said "Many times throughout the Bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for," or to your friend rhoetagamma, who said "I've recently had fellowship with this organization and I find them to be some of the nicest Greeks I've ever met. People who truly uphold the principles they stand for unlike some other organizations I have been around. It's okay though. We understand everyone does not have the same intimacy with God to hear Him clearly when He calls and appoints you to an assignment."
Oh, and very well-said, SWTXBelle.
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07-18-2007, 09:44 PM
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Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.
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07-18-2007, 09:46 PM
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Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.
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I've tried, but they called me arrogant... LOL.
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07-18-2007, 09:47 PM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
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07-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
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That's what happens when you have one founder.
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07-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.
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Very simliar to the way your Web site generalizes that your organization is better than other GLOS ... based on stereotypes you have heard regarding Greek Life?
Seriously. It's great that you founded a community sisterhood. Good for you. But it belittles your organization to make a public declaration that you are above other sisterhoods.
You'll get a much more positive reception by not slamming other GLO's in your public literature.
Good luck with your organization.
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07-18-2007, 09:59 PM
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Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
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I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.
According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution. From your last post, I would take it that you would agree with me that while the Church is full of sinners, it is not simply a human institution.
Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?
You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.
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07-18-2007, 10:04 PM
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I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.
According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution. From your last post, I would take it that you would agree with me that while the Church is full of sinners, it is not simply a human institution.
Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?
You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.
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The thing is-- we NEVER asked to have this conversation. People were attacking us before we got here. Before we knew ANY of you even existed. So why are we the bad guys?
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07-18-2007, 10:11 PM
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No one was "attacking" you. Certain aspects of your org were discussed - mostly in an amused way.Certainly, the misuse of the Greek letters was a topic of discussion. But an attack? No.
If you look around Greekchat, you'll see that we discuss just about anything you can name about Greek life - often with a sense of humor.
You chose to come here and elevate the conflict. You keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. I would suggest that if, as you state, you didn't know about "us" (does that mean NPC/NPHC/other established orgs, or GreekChat?) that you don't worry about "us".
MysticCat, you are my new hero.
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07-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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No one was "attacking" you. Certain aspects of your org were discussed - mostly in an amused way.Certainly, the misuse of the Greek letters was a topic of discussion. But an attack? No.
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Again, very well put.
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MysticCat, you are my new hero.
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Funny -- I was just thinking the same thing about you.
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07-18-2007, 10:46 PM
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When have I insulted anyone?
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I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.
According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution.
That is not what I meant to imply. I was trying to get across, that the church is not an institution that you have to go to, it is the people of God that make the church. Without being so wordy.
Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?
None of this is about sinners - we are all sinners. Just to let you all know this is not an Anit-GLO thing - this is a Christ thing. There are so many Christians involved in Greek Letter Organizations, I happen to be married to one. So no, this is not putting anyone down. It really isn't about any of you. What you consider yourselves or what you personally believe. This ministry exists in the form of a Sorority. It has absolutely nothing to do with other organizations.
It sounds like everyone is dead set on making the sole purpose of this organization to put others down. That couldn't be further from the truth. Wether you join or not we exist to uplift, encourage and empower the body of Christ. Enough said....Either you get it or you don't. If you would like further information contact us. But remember this is not about you.
You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.
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07-18-2007, 10:54 PM
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Every time you post you manage to be insulting in your attitude and tone, but I will give you this - it is consistent with the website, and thus I assume with your org.
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07-18-2007, 11:04 PM
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Is it insulting, or just irritation you are picking up on. No one is attacking or trying to insult or "put anyone down", yet for some reason "assume" that everything said is some type of attack. Most of that quote was in response to someone elses words. Trying to explain to those that have made up their minds about someone or an entire body of people, is like beating a dead drum. Like I said before, I am merely offering the opportunity to get to know us, instead of judging so harshley something that is not fully understood.
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07-18-2007, 11:09 PM
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Is it insulting, or just irritation you are picking up on. No one is attacking or trying to insult or "put anyone down", yet for some reason "assume" that everything said is some type of attack. Most of that quote was in response to someone elses words. Trying to explain to those that have made up their minds about someone or an entire body of people, is like beating a dead drum. Like I said before, I am merely offering the opportunity to get to know us, instead of judging so harshley something that is not fully understood.
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Are you the founder?
Just wondering, because I feel like you are. It's not an attack, I just want to know.
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07-18-2007, 11:09 PM
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Anyone think the woman on the bottom left looks pretty angry about being an honorary diva?
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