Too fat to recruit: or, DePauw, the Sequel

[pialpha92]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

I don't think anyone has offered any support to suggest that the example you gave or any like it is justified.

The only justification that I'd seen offered occurred within the very narrow example of "is it better for a struggling chapter to close than it is to hurt a members feeling?" And even that was totally hypothetical because no one even agreed it would work, much less be right.

Were you and your sisters able to do anything about this situation?

I was asked for an example to prove my point and I gave one. It was not done within our chapter so there is not much you can do to change another groups internal operations, especially finding out after rush is over. Our members were of course supportive of the other NPC's member in question.

I only posted again because some posters have stated that it is necessary on more competitive campuses, trying to justify the practice. My point was only that the practice is not limited to that situation - and regardless, I feel it is never acceptable or necessary - even in the example of a struggling chapter.

I feel that if they are good enough to be your sister the other 51 weeks of the year then they are good enough to be your sister during rush. Some may disagree - that's life.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by pialpha92

I was asked for an example to prove my point and I gave one. It was not done within our chapter so there is not much you can do to change another groups internal operations, especially finding out after rush is over. Our members were of course supportive of the other NPC's member in question.

I only posted again because some posters have stated that it is necessary on more competitive campuses, trying to justify the practice. My point was only that the practice is not limited to that situation - and regardless, I feel it is never acceptable or necessary - even in the example of a struggling chapter.

I feel that if they are good enough to be your sister the other 51 weeks of the year then they are good enough to be your sister during rush. Some may disagree - that's life.

I thought it was a chapter of your group, but I agree that it would be a challenge to know what to do. It just seems kind of sad for the folks who want to change things that even when you have clear examples of your own organization engaging in the practice, nothing can be done.

I don't think anyone has disagreed with your basic premise about 51 weeks of the year here although there are some folks who think that it might be better to steer some folks to certain recruitment positions for that one week.

It's a little odd to me that people think as far as being a "good rusher" or having skit talent, there is an objective standard that is appropriate to use (even if it might hurt feelings, I guess), but appearance, especially weight, is in another category. It seems a little weird. Is it because it seems like appearance should be so clearly superficial that we'd never consider it? But on some level wouldn't that make it more hurtful to be told that you had no talent or a lame personality in assignment rush roles?

And I think that some folks have direct experience with groups with the wrong image closing, so that seems to kind of "justify" the experience of struggling chapters who are trying to improve their image, not that it justifies completely excluding members based on appearance, which as near as I can tell has never been justified in this thread.