South vs. North?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by IvySpice

Learning and preserving history is a different thing from taking "pride" in your association with the past. If the people you are taking "pride" in did shameful things as well as good things, you should feel that shame to the same extent you feel pride. But that's not what I see people doing. I hear people linking themselves to honor, and sacrifice, and other noble qualities their ancestors had, but when it comes to filthy, hateful things their ancestors did, the same people say, well, they were just doing what was typical in their historical context, and I'm not responsible for the things they did, so I am not really associated with the filth and hate. Well, how can you be linked to one and not the other?

If you're German, you can learn and preserve of all the great things Germany and Germans have done throughout history. But if you tell me you feel personally proud of your association with Beethoven, you should also feel personally ashamed of your association with Goebbels. To pretend that your heritage is all about the good stuff is to sanitize history. It's dishonest.

But in some ways, doesn't getting rid of all the confederate symbols sanitize history as well? That's one of the things about the Georgia flag thing that seemed especially dumb. As long as the flag was what it was, we had to remember why. Changing it can be seen as progress, but it also allows people to forget about why the flag was changed in 56.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

But in some ways, doesn't getting rid of all the confederate symbols sanitize history as well? That's one of the things about the Georgia flag thing that seemed especially dumb. As long as the flag was what it was, we had to remember why. Changing it can be seen as progress, but it also allows people to forget about why the flag was changed in 56.

Not really...it could be viewed the same as a swastika. No one likes to see those plastered all over the place but no one has ever forgotten the horrors of world war 2 and nazi Germany. Not that I'm comparing the confederate flag to Hitler, it's apples and oranges, but you get what I mean.
People only forget when you allow them to forget.

[UGAalum94]

Because I don't think it is as clear as the swastika example, I'm not sure you are right. The flag is a symbol that people feel really different about depending on their historic and political outlook. I don't want to spend even more time and energy in Georgia on the flag since it's simply a symbolic, rather than real issue, and so the present flag is a step forward in that regard. But it also allows people to tell themselves that we may be further along than we really are, and that there's a consensus that doesn't really exist.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Because I don't think it is as clear as the swastika example, I'm not sure you are right. The flag is a symbol that people feel really different about depending on their historic and political outlook. I don't want to spend even more time and energy in Georgia on the flag since it's simply a symbolic, rather than real issue, and so the present flag is a step forward in that regard. But it also allows people to tell themselves that we may be further along than we really are, and that there's a consensus that doesn't really exist.

While I love the Confederate flag and all the history it represents, the way Arkansas respects it's history is in a word, respectful. On our flag is three stars, one for each countries we have been under, including the Confederacy.

[SWTXBelle]

Cypress Gardens looked like it was going under, but was purchased by new investors. I think they are planning to put in rides, but keep the Belles.