Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?

[MissCaramella]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Wow is all I gotta say for them.

Sigma Gamma Lambda has (well I counted 83, their site claims 88) chapters and 11 colonies. That is truly impressive.

From the pictures of the sisters on the site you can tell that they truly are diverse.

I wonder if they will apply for NPC membership?

Seeing how Sigma Lambda Gamma is a member of NALFO, I would say no.

[33girl]

Briana - Kappa Beta Gamma used to be a member of NPC but their number of chapters dropped to the point that they had to drop out. They were Catholic based when they were founded but like TPA, they now accept women of all faiths. They are trying to re-enter the NPC.

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Briana - Kappa Beta Gamma used to be a member of NPC but their number of chapters dropped to the point that they had to drop out. They were Catholic based when they were founded but like TPA, they now accept women of all faiths. They are trying to re-enter the NPC.

Thanks!

[AEPhiSierra]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Briana - Kappa Beta Gamma used to be a member of NPC but their number of chapters dropped to the point that they had to drop out. They were Catholic based when they were founded but like TPA, they now accept women of all faiths. They are trying to re-enter the NPC.

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by AEPhiSierra

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

Sheila knows all.

I just looked at their National website, and it could use some help. It refers to their sisters as Alumni, instead of Alumnae and says that they would like to become Pan-Hellenic (which I would assume, if I didn't know different to be NPHC) affiliated, instead of National Panhellenic (as in NPC).

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by AEPhiSierra

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

I either have the information at home in a book or it's online here on the site, 'cause I know it's been discussed before.

ETA: Link

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

I either have the information at home in a book or it's online here on the site, 'cause I know it's been discussed before.

ETA: Link

I actually have no record of us being involved with NPC, so I would be thrilled to find out truth behind this. If anyone really does have records of our membership it would be greatly appreciated. However, as far as I and everyone else that has been involved with nationals since probably 1994 knows, we were never NPC.

We've actually been having problems with NPC over the past year, in that we have been treated like a local from the standpoint of regional panhell and national once it came straight down to it. Loyola Chicago allowed "expansion" this past semester and gave permission to NPC to take over one of our chapters. Because we weren't NPC, we were not treated with the respect a national organization deserves by the school's Panhell advisor (who is out next year, thank god), nor NPC nationally. This kind of leaves us in an ugly situation with NOT wanting to be NPC because of the lack of respect we've recieved from them, yet WANTING to be NPC because we would have way less fights with administrations when it comes to expansion, or even situations such as that at Loyola. We would have quite a way to go yet though before becoming NPC would even be an option again.

And yes, I know our website needs major updating. I should have it fixed fairly soon.

[PenguinTrax]

BootyKBG -

I"ll try and find the information this weekend and post it for you. I *think* it may be in the Sorority Handbook by Ida Shaw Martin or in my 1930's Bairds.

Barbara

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

Ida

[OrigamiTulip]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

BootyKBG -

I"ll try and find the information this weekend and post it for you. I *think* it may be in the Sorority Handbook by Ida Shaw Martin or in my 1930's Bairds.

Barbara

It's not in the 1931 Sorority Handbook. I just got my hands on a copy of it last weekend - very neat book. Like a mini Baird's Manual.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by BootyKBG

I actually have no record of us being involved with NPC, so I would be thrilled to find out truth behind this. If anyone really does have records of our membership it would be greatly appreciated. However, as far as I and everyone else that has been involved with nationals since probably 1994 knows, we were never NPC.

We've actually been having problems with NPC over the past year, in that we have been treated like a local from the standpoint of regional panhell and national once it came straight down to it. Loyola Chicago allowed "expansion" this past semester and gave permission to NPC to take over one of our chapters. Because we weren't NPC, we were not treated with the respect a national organization deserves by the school's Panhell advisor (who is out next year, thank god), nor NPC nationally. This kind of leaves us in an ugly situation with NOT wanting to be NPC because of the lack of respect we've recieved from them, yet WANTING to be NPC because we would have way less fights with administrations when it comes to expansion, or even situations such as that at Loyola. We would have quite a way to go yet though before becoming NPC would even be an option again.

And yes, I know our website needs major updating. I should have it fixed fairly soon.

I know a few girls from a chapter that would NOT be happy about becoming NPC.

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I know a few girls from a chapter that would NOT be happy about becoming NPC.

Well its not really an issue now, as we only have 5 active chapters at this time.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by MissCaramella

Seeing how Sigma Lambda Gamma is a member of NALFO, I would say no.

that's what i was thinking - at 88 chapters (whatever the # is) they'd have to be part of some governing council.

wouldnt being part of NALFO work counter to being part of NPC, as far as which rules to follow and what not? i guess that is sorority-specific, because fraternities can be part of 2 councils without issue, right? (only example i can recall is Alpha Phi Alpha being part of NPHC/NIC)

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by tld221

that's what i was thinking - at 88 chapters (whatever the # is) they'd have to be part of some governing council.

wouldnt being part of NALFO work counter to being part of NPC, as far as which rules to follow and what not? i guess that is sorority-specific, because fraternities can be part of 2 councils without issue, right? (only example i can recall is Alpha Phi Alpha being part of NPHC/NIC)

Isn't Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta also members of the NIC? I think the difference is that NIC is different than NPC in that NPC orgs have all agreed to run membership recruitment within a specific system, while NIC hasn't (please correct me if I'm wrong NPC'ers). So given that Sigma Lambda Gamma's recruitment style is more similar to NPHC orgs, it would probably be difficult to switch to a different style if they became members of NPC.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by MissCaramella

Seeing how Sigma Lambda Gamma is a member of NALFO, I would say no.

Lambda Sigma Upsilon, Lambda Theta Phi, Phi Iota Alpha, and Sigma Lambda Beta fraternities are all members of the NIC as well as the NALFO. Why couldn't a sorority be a member of both councils (NPC and NALFO) if so allowed?