Delta Zeta Reportedly Sues DePauw

[Jimmy Choo]

There's a difference between mentioning in passing "Wow, Susie PNM is really pretty. Her dress was so cute!" or saying "Well, Sally PNM was nice and would fit in except she's butt ugly and we can't bid her". I'm glad I was part of a chapter that was part of the first example!

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by ecupidelta

There's a difference between mentioning in passing "Wow, Susie PNM is really pretty. Her dress was so cute!" or saying "Well, Sally PNM was nice and would fit in except she's butt ugly and we can't bid her". I'm glad I was part of a chapter that was part of the first example!

Couldn't have thought of a better way to say it.

I realize that when you join a sorority there are some personal "freedoms" you might have to relinquish, like watching what you say or do when representing your organization, coming to events when asked to, etc. It might include doing things like dressing up for class during rush and wearing make up during rush. I don't think asking that much is unreasonable. But asking a member to overhaul her personality, or totally re do her wardrobe, do something that doesn't mesh with personal values or, essentially, be someone she isn't is not what sisterhood is about. And that's not right. We don't know what they were asked to do, but I am betting it was more than wear a skirt and some blush to class.

I can safely say that my chapter also fits into that first example, and that I've never seen us make a woman change who she is. Look cute during rush? Yes. Wear some make up, brush your hair. But do we tell them what style of clothing to wear, or to act like a different person? Never. And I've never seen the attitude that a woman won't be considered for membership because of her looks. It's nice to get a girl who is everything we are and pretty as a bonus, but dang...what is the point of picking a girl because she's cute, and not because she has that Alpha Gam spark?

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by ecupidelta

There's a difference between mentioning in passing "Wow, Susie PNM is really pretty. Her dress was so cute!" or saying "Well, Sally PNM was nice and would fit in except she's butt ugly and we can't bid her". I'm glad I was part of a chapter that was part of the first example!

I agree... and Ithink the whole deal revolves around the fact that those women who were dismissed were at one time given and accepted bids to join... they went through the whole process and then became full sisters.

Then, not even suddenly, because several articles have stated that the "Great DZ Decline" happened over a period of TEN YEARS, DZ decides they want to overhaul their image and consider closing/reopening because their centenial is coming up.

All of a sudden image mattered.

I think that even if DZ was able to close then suddenly reopen, they would not have received the great response that they hoped for because even if they held an open recruitment, DZ would have still had to deal with the "image" it had before on campus. Those don't die suddenly on most schools.

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

Couldn't have thought of a better way to say it.

lol...... I just didn't know how else to put it but really that's what this is boiling down too......I've been pretty tactful so far on GC but in real life that's not exactly my strongest quality......

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I agree... and Ithink the whole deal revolves around the fact that those women who were dismissed were at one time given and accepted bids to join... they went through the whole process and then became full sisters.

That's what has always bothered me about this situation. If a chapter only wants to take the pretty women during recruitment then as much as some of us think that's awful, in the end, it's the decision of that chapter. More power to 'em! And if there are chapters that use that filter, we won't really ever know b/c that falls under MS. But to come in and re-organize and only keep the pretty girls...... that's just weak! If you're going to re-organize then do it, don't pick and choose. That's just stupid and that is what has caused this big bruhaha. If they had just done a straight-up reorganization we wouldn't even be talking about it.