South vs. North?

[AKL-mizzou-AZ]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Glad to hear that. I was told that a true Missourian pronounces it Missourah. How crazy is that?

Most Missourians take people who pronounce it Missousrah to be considered hoosiers (or hillbillys, rednecks). I am from St. Louis and now go to school in Columbia (Mizzou) and that seems to be the more unpopular pronunciation.

[melsigkap]

I had never heard Missour-ah until I came to school in St Louis. Someone told me that some political campaigns make 2 of the same commercial, one where the candidate says "Missour-ee" for the St Louis area, and another where they say it with the '-ah' for the rest of the state...not sure if that's even close to true though.

[ChildoftheHorn]

I will say it depends on where you are in certain areas. My grandpa is a prof. emeritus (just retired) from Missou and he says Missourah. Then in St. Louis, 75% of the family says Missourah. Really it is a courtesy thing, like speaking in a foreign language in public places. People just don't do it.

The connotation of hick really come from the way they say it in the "Hick" parts of the state; where it is pronounced "Mizz - SIRR - UH" where it is a drawn out word with 3 solid beats. Instead, the other way to say it is basically 2 beats and "miss - ura" with "ura" as a single beat.

If you sing in choir it is the difference between g'ivn (1 beat) and given (2 beats), a common notation in classical music pieces.

I totally understand what you are talking about with the "Hick" thing.

[shinerbock]

Well, we're now assured of getting a completely GDI national champion in basketball

[banditone]

Is Texas considered "south"? I know it's the most south you can get without being in Mexico, but it seems to never get mentioned when compared to "real south" states like Mississippi, Bama, SC, Georgia, Louisiana.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by banditone

Is Texas considered "south"? I know it's the most south you can get without being in Mexico, but it seems to never get mentioned when compared to "real south" states like Mississippi, Bama, SC, Georgia, Louisiana.

Texas is in a pure class of its own.....plain and simple. East Texas is very Southern, but the rest of Texas is completely different in cultures (mostly Southwestern), which is why it doesn't get included with the rest. Obviously the state being enormous has alot to do with it.

I do though think the fact that Texas has contributed so much to the South historically makes for a legitimate argument for it being included in the mix of Southern states.

[shinerbock]

Its not exactly the South, but its similar. Its a helluva lot more southern than florida.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Its not exactly the South, but its similar. Its a helluva lot more southern than florida.

I concur.


Mac, what town is your family in, in Southeast Missouri? I have a lot of family in that area, my family just inherited a small ranch near the Mississipi

[banditone]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Texas is in a pure class of its own.....plain and simple. East Texas is very Southern, but the rest of Texas is completely different in cultures (mostly Southwestern), which is why it doesn't get included with the rest. Obviously the state being enormous has alot to do with it.

I do though think the fact that Texas has contributed so much to the South historically makes for a legitimate argument for it being included in the mix of Southern states.

I live in Dallas, and can tell ya, it shows very very little "southyness" to it. Actually, none.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by banditone

I live in Dallas, and can tell ya, it shows very very little "southyness" to it. Actually, none.

As Mac will most likely to say, it depends on where in Dallas much like the rest of the state. Dallas has some terribly un-south portions including Plano, Addison, Richardson, and all of south Dallas. However, Highland Park (which may be one of my favorite cities ever) is very Southern and very old money. SMU is a blight on HP, in that it's mostly filled with Florida and California kids, Phi Delt and maybe SAE are the only ones who keep with Southern/Texan values.

There are also other conclaves in Texas (such as Tyler, which I figure Mac will say) that are very Southern. It varies greatly within the state however.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by banditone

Is Texas considered "south"? I know it's the most south you can get without being in Mexico, but it seems to never get mentioned when compared to "real south" states like Mississippi, Bama, SC, Georgia, Louisiana.

I've always thought of it as southwest--a combination of the south and the west. My daughter lives in Dallas and I don't feel like I have gone to the south when I visit her.

To me when I think of the "true" south, I think MS, AL, and GA. Not sure about the Carolinas, Louisiana, or Virginia. And Florida is a complete enigma. LOL

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

I've always thought of it as southwest--a combination of the south and the west. My daughter lives in Dallas and I don't feel like I have gone to the south when I visit her.

To me when I think of the "true" south, I think MS, AL, and GA. Not sure about the Carolinas, Louisiana, or Virginia. And Florida is a complete enigma. LOL

South Carolina and Tennessee are definitely in that same MS, AL, and GA Southern category.

[ChildoftheHorn]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

South Carolina and Tennessee are definitely in that same MS, AL, and GA Southern category.

Can we also add Cincinnatti, OH ? It almost is....

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

South Carolina and Tennessee are definitely in that same MS, AL, and GA Southern category.

I forgot all about TN. LOL

[FatalDSTination]

Originally Posted by banditone

Is Texas considered "south"? I know it's the most south you can get without being in Mexico, but it seems to never get mentioned when compared to "real south" states like Mississippi, Bama, SC, Georgia, Louisiana.

Yes, TX is real south!