More Black students joining Latino Greek organizations

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by tld221

for randomness' sake, can i say that asian greeks are sticking to their own orgs? while im sure all of our orgs have some asian members, can i conclude that asians are least likely to seek an org outside their own (off the top aKDP, KPL, LPhiE)?

I would argue that Asians who are least culturally assimilated are more likely to join AGLOs. They still closely identify with Asian culture and want to be surrounded by others who identify.

[ufdale]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I would argue that Asians who are least culturally assimilated are more likely to join AGLOs. They still closely identify with Asian culture and want to be surrounded by others who identify.

I don't know that I would argue this. My best friend is Vietnamese (first generation american) and she never even looked into anything other than NPC sororities. She is super preppy and is in love with all things sorority. I don't think she ever regretted joining the NPC.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ufdale

I don't know that I would argue this. My best friend is Vietnamese (first generation american) and she never even looked into anything other than NPC sororities. She is super preppy and is in love with all things sorority. I don't think she ever regretted joining the NPC.

My post is a generalization so your friend doesn't refute my point.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by ufdale

I don't know that I would argue this. My best friend is Vietnamese (first generation american) and she never even looked into anything other than NPC sororities. She is super preppy and is in love with all things sorority. I don't think she ever regretted joining the NPC.

That I can personally attest to. When I rushed for this one asian sorority, literally everyone knew each other one way and the other that was hard for me to join conversations. I don't mean to say it in a bad way, but it's like they would rather have girls that they knew already to join their org then someone who just randomly jumped in. It was sad that they the actives would just strike conversations with girls that they know and talk about people in their circle. Needless to say, I performed really poor

Being in commuter school with a small greek system and not knowing anything about greek, I was under the false assumption that you can rush for only one GLO, and I didn't know anything about NPC.

If I had known about NPCs earlier in my school career, I would have rushed for them. Knowing that they could widen my horizons way more than a cultural interest org becuase the girls that I met in some NPC orgs are so diversified in many areas. I know some asian girls who are really satisfied with their NPC orgs.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I would argue that Asians who are least culturally assimilated are more likely to join AGLOs. They still closely identify with Asian culture and want to be surrounded by others who identify.

very much so.

[Tom Earp]

Maybe individuals are finding a place where they feel more at ease and comfortable.

It is quite possible that they do not find what they are looking for in the ethnic
community that there find themselves in.

At least someone is joining Greek Organizations.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I would argue that Asians who are least culturally assimilated are more likely to join AGLOs. They still closely identify with Asian culture and want to be surrounded by others who identify.

That I totally agree. That's why you would see people usually hang out with their own group. Filipinos with filipinos; chinese with chinese. It's not surprising becuase I have heard stories how asians trying to find their own root, their culture because they feel they cannot identify themselves with the general American public. They try to push for various Asian American programs, cultural awareness groups and rallies.

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

i hope youre calling this a generalization cause thats EXACTLY what it is.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by tld221

i hope youre calling this a generalization cause thats EXACTLY what it is.

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

Again, it's just my own opinion. Nothing to feel offensive about.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

Again, it's just my own opinion. Nothing to feel offensive about.

well i was more taken a back by your statement that you don't learn much about asian culture by hanging with asian groups. as someone who was active in several different asian cultural organizations, i know for a fact that we threw food festivals and cultural festivals during the year. we also roadtripped to other schools for cultural conferences in our region. trust, i learn a whole lot during those times.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by starang21

well i was more taken a back by your statement that you don't learn much about asian culture by hanging with asian groups. as someone who was active in several different asian cultural organizations, i know for a fact that we threw food festivals and cultural festivals during the year. we also roadtripped to other schools for cultural conferences in our region. trust, i learn a whole lot during those times.

Well, comparing to a person who has lived in asia for half of my life, things we learned there of course would be more cultural based then what you experience here. But again, because I was brought up there, I see things differently.

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, comparing to a person who has lived in asia for half of my life, things we learned there of course would be more cultural based then what you experience here. But again, because I was brought up there, I see things differently.

I agree with cutie_cat. Just because one only has Chinese friends, listens to Cantopop, speaks Cantonese and drinks bubble tea doesn't mean that one knows much about (traditional) Chinese culture.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

For Asians and whites it's usually more of segregation by choice unless they are forced into segregation based on language or economic barriers.

For blacks and Hispanics it's usually forced segregation based on socioeconomic barriers, with some choice for people who aren't relegated to low income housing and schooling.

As far as not learning about Asian culture from fellow Asians, your point is accurate only if the group as a whole is assimilating and are therefore less identifiable, culturally. However in many areas there are pockets of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generationers who still mingle in exclusive ethnic settings, eat ethnic foods all day everyday and still closely identify with the language and culture. Many of these group members interact and identify with American culture for work and school commitments only.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

you're kidding, right?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by starang21

you're kidding, right?

i was trying to be nice, but thats exactly what i meant to say.