More Black students joining Latino Greek organizations

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I would argue that Asians who are least culturally assimilated are more likely to join AGLOs. They still closely identify with Asian culture and want to be surrounded by others who identify.

That I totally agree. That's why you would see people usually hang out with their own group. Filipinos with filipinos; chinese with chinese. It's not surprising becuase I have heard stories how asians trying to find their own root, their culture because they feel they cannot identify themselves with the general American public. They try to push for various Asian American programs, cultural awareness groups and rallies.

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

i hope youre calling this a generalization cause thats EXACTLY what it is.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by tld221

i hope youre calling this a generalization cause thats EXACTLY what it is.

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

Again, it's just my own opinion. Nothing to feel offensive about.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

Again, it's just my own opinion. Nothing to feel offensive about.

well i was more taken a back by your statement that you don't learn much about asian culture by hanging with asian groups. as someone who was active in several different asian cultural organizations, i know for a fact that we threw food festivals and cultural festivals during the year. we also roadtripped to other schools for cultural conferences in our region. trust, i learn a whole lot during those times.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by starang21

well i was more taken a back by your statement that you don't learn much about asian culture by hanging with asian groups. as someone who was active in several different asian cultural organizations, i know for a fact that we threw food festivals and cultural festivals during the year. we also roadtripped to other schools for cultural conferences in our region. trust, i learn a whole lot during those times.

Well, comparing to a person who has lived in asia for half of my life, things we learned there of course would be more cultural based then what you experience here. But again, because I was brought up there, I see things differently.

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, comparing to a person who has lived in asia for half of my life, things we learned there of course would be more cultural based then what you experience here. But again, because I was brought up there, I see things differently.

I agree with cutie_cat. Just because one only has Chinese friends, listens to Cantopop, speaks Cantonese and drinks bubble tea doesn't mean that one knows much about (traditional) Chinese culture.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

I agree with cutie_cat. Just because one only has Chinese friends, listens to Cantopop, speaks Cantonese and drinks bubble tea doesn't mean that one knows much about (traditional) Chinese culture.

of course you would.

much of what is learned at this conferences and festivals is not only "traditional" but also very much fused with what makes asian americans just that....americans.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

I agree with cutie_cat. Just because one only has Chinese friends, listens to Cantopop, speaks Cantonese and drinks bubble tea doesn't mean that one knows much about (traditional) Chinese culture.

There are quite a few Asian groups so whatever cultural identification means to that group while they are in America is what it means, period. Many of these individuals also participate in traditional celebrations and holidays, as well as do their best to learn history and culture. But every group begins to separate itself from aspects of traditionalism and identifiability to an extent.

So I don't know what the culture-o-meter would be as far as you are concerned but the point remains the same.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, this is just my observation. You don't have to agree with it, but this is how "I" see. Yes, it is "general" but it does exist in general, right? How "I" see it is that people tend to feel more comfortable in their own circles, and part of it can be cultural. You can't deny the fact that segregated groups do exist. Not because they are forced to, but people choose to affiliate with groups by choice.

For Asians and whites it's usually more of segregation by choice unless they are forced into segregation based on language or economic barriers.

For blacks and Hispanics it's usually forced segregation based on socioeconomic barriers, with some choice for people who aren't relegated to low income housing and schooling.

As far as not learning about Asian culture from fellow Asians, your point is accurate only if the group as a whole is assimilating and are therefore less identifiable, culturally. However in many areas there are pockets of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generationers who still mingle in exclusive ethnic settings, eat ethnic foods all day everyday and still closely identify with the language and culture. Many of these group members interact and identify with American culture for work and school commitments only.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Though to be honest, there's pratically not much you can learn about asian culture by hanging out with asian groups. You live in America, you eat the same food like Americans do, you listen to the same songs and etc. So to me, it's more like they feel they cannot relate themselves to others cultural groups. It's not just asians but other groups as well. So that's why it's not surprising to see people are still segregated in a way.

you're kidding, right?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by starang21

you're kidding, right?

i was trying to be nice, but thats exactly what i meant to say.

[ufdale]

I was a little suprised and very upset about how segregated college is. My highschool (IB) was like a mini UN, but then I came to college and everyone went to their own cultural groups. My best friend who's Columbian only hangs out with the columbian group, my jewish friends joined the predominantly jewish fraternities/sororities, and on and on.
Perhaps people want to be around people that they identify with...but we used to identify ourselves together, so what happened? Ehh I've given this a lot of thought and it has bothered me for sometime, but I don't think I'm saying this right.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by ufdale

I was a little suprised and very upset about how segregated college is. My highschool (IB) was like a mini UN, but then I came to college and everyone went to their own cultural groups. My best friend who's Columbian only hangs out with the columbian group, my jewish friends joined the predominantly jewish fraternities/sororities, and on and on.
Perhaps people want to be around people that they identify with...but we used to identify ourselves together, so what happened? Ehh I've given this a lot of thought and it has bothered me for sometime, but I don't think I'm saying this right.

I was surprised too. Even being in one of the most diverse schools, I'm still surprised how segregated they are. But again, it's their choice to choose who they would like to affiliate to. It took me a while to embrace my own culture. Now I have friends from different parts of the world and I'm glad that I do. Some people choose to be this way and I learned from my sociology class that it's some sort of "identity crisis", trying to find who you really are and what your root is and how your culture shapes who you are today.