Fall News: The Late Edition

[southernelle25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Interesting.

Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.

Originally Posted by lovelyivy84

Yeah, I'm sure his acting coach worked with him real hard on that one.

That outburst was just too raw and out of context (telling hecklers how you would lynch them?) to be anything but what he really felt IMO.

I agree with commentators who said it seemed as if he was going in and out of the Kramer character during his "apology".

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.

What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?

[lovelyivy84]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?

That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.

I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lovelyivy84

That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.

I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern

Cool. I can see how that's what she meant. My fault, southernelle25.

When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.

They did call him "cracka", and I agree with you 100%. Spewing the ignorance back at him did not help the situation or media fury at all. Watching that exchange (and the words across the screen) made me cringe all the way around.

[jojapeach]

LOL @ apo-la-lying

I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.

I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

LOL @ apo-la-lying

I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.

I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.

Geesh. I don't blame some people for not keeping up with that nonsense. What other groups have gone through these name transformations? Not many.

Instead of focusing on what TO call us, folks should just worry about what NOT TO call us as a group: NIGGER, NIGGA, COLORED, PORCH MONKEYS, etc.

And when white people ask "what do you want to be called" I tell them to call me by my name.

[DSTCHAOS]

Okay, I've received my first email forward about this mess.

I hate email forwards and I hope black people don't get on the email forward tip about his tangent. I mean, some of us actually watch the news and don't rely on the Blackweb for the latest.

So this dude sends the forward of the video clip and says something to the effect of he would've done so-and-so if he had been there. Mannnnnn, you wouldn't have done anything!!! And anything that you would've done would've made the situation worse and made you look stupid.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Geesh. I don't blame some people for not keeping up with that nonsense. What other groups have gone through these name transformations? Not many.

Instead of focusing on what TO call us, folks should just worry about what NOT TO call us as a group: NIGGER, NIGGA, COLORED, PORCH MONKEYS, etc.

And when white people ask "what do you want to be called" I tell them to call me by my name.

The nonsense is supposed to be "politically correct", which makes these terms comfortable for the masses. IMO, Michael Richards does not care to appeal or relate to the American masses. He shouldn't make fake apologies about the words he let out of his mouth because he doesn't care about the people affected by them.

And when did Caucasian come into use? I don't recall hearing that from the white kids or my white teachers in elementary or middle school. The Caucaus Mountains have been around for centuries, but the term "Caucasian" has not. Neither has Anglo-American, Asian-American, Cuban-American, Mexican American, etc.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

And when did Caucasian come into use? I don't recall hearing that from the white kids or my white teachers in elementary or middle school. The Caucaus Mountains have been around for centuries, but the term "Caucasian" has not. Neither has Anglo-American, Asian-American, Cuban-American, Mexican American, etc.

I don't know when Caucasian came into use. Probably over the past 30 years when people started having race debates and discovering how "race" is socially constructed versus biological. I used to hear about Caucazoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid when I was younger.

I think of these categorical names as important for record keeping purposes only. I certainly don't walk around hyphenating groups. My biggest thing is that I try to avoid using racial epithets or objectifying a group of people in my language and actions.