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11-21-2006, 12:15 PM
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Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.
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11-21-2006, 01:34 PM
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His Jewish fans need to think carefully before accepting him back. In my experience, the people who hold these feelings toward blacks tend to hold worse feelings toward Jews; where there is disregard for the pain and suffering of black folk, there is pure hatred for the very existence of Jews.
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I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish...
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11-21-2006, 01:55 PM
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Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.
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Then he goes on to pretend like he now is concerned about race relations after Hurricane Katrina...c'mon...don't make it seem like you were making some sort of political statement...
As I stated, I am surprised he is still walking...
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11-21-2006, 03:27 PM
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Most of the posts by yt folks I've seen on the issue are all about reverse racism, and how come it's not ok for him to say "the n-word" but it was ok for the black folks in the audience to call him cracker. I think he will be just fine.
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If all he said was the n-word, I might be tempted to give them a point. However, this fool had the nerve to say, and I quote:
"Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with af***in' fork up your a**!"
This is a very clear reference to lynching he would have participated in.
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I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish... 
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I don't believe he is.
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11-21-2006, 04:24 PM
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I thought that Michael Richards WAS Jewish... 
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Jerry Seinfied is Jewish. When Michael Richards was on the David Letterman show last night, he seemed very sorry about his comments.
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11-21-2006, 05:01 PM
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Jerry Seinfied is Jewish. When Michael Richards was on the David Letterman show last night, he seemed very sorry about his comments.
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Yeah, I'm sure his acting coach worked with him real hard on that one.
That outburst was just too raw and out of context (telling hecklers how you would lynch them?) to be anything but what he really felt IMO.
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11-21-2006, 05:18 PM
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SInce folks were actively laughing in the audience while he was saying it...
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THAT's what really tripped me out.
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11-21-2006, 05:33 PM
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If all he said was the n-word, I might be tempted to give them a point.
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Interesting.
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11-21-2006, 05:57 PM
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Interesting.
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Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.
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Yeah, I'm sure his acting coach worked with him real hard on that one.
That outburst was just too raw and out of context (telling hecklers how you would lynch them?) to be anything but what he really felt IMO.
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I agree with commentators who said it seemed as if he was going in and out of the Kramer character during his "apology".
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11-21-2006, 07:07 PM
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Yeah, I could understand those who say that if you are against the use of the "n-word", then you should be against the use of any and all other racial slurs.
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What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?
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11-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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What does that have to do with the excerpt of your post that I quoted?
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That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.
I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern
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11-21-2006, 07:26 PM
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That is what she was referring to in the post you responded to with "Interesting"- she was saying she could understand the view of people who had an attitude like those I referenced- that the only thing they noted was it was just as wrong for the folks in the audience to be calling him cracker as it was for him to call them "the n-word" - IF that was all he had done.
I don't agree with the point, lol, but that was what she meant. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood southern
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Cool. I can see how that's what she meant. My fault, southernelle25.
When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.
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11-21-2006, 07:28 PM
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LOL @ apo-la-lying
I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.
I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.
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11-21-2006, 07:32 PM
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When I watched the footage on the news yesterday, it seemed as though the black people said "cracka" after he went on his tangent. That doesn't make it okay but it makes that "why's it okay for them and not us" retort even dumber. If the black people said "cracka" first, that still doesn't excuse him to yell "NIGGER" over and over again, but it makes the black audience members even dumber than I already think they are.
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They did call him "cracka", and I agree with you 100%. Spewing the ignorance back at him did not help the situation or media fury at all. Watching that exchange (and the words across the screen) made me cringe all the way around.
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11-21-2006, 07:32 PM
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LOL @ apo-la-lying
I didn't buy his apology. His rant was how he genuinely felt about black people. Hearing him call us Afro-Americans irked me because we've progressed to being "black" and "African-American" for quite some time. It's not as if he called us "colored", but obviously, black people don't matter enough in his world to keep up with the times and what we're called these days.
I would've felt better about his apology if he hadn't insisted, "I'm not a racist!" while calling us by an outdated name. I would've felt great if he had been real and admitted that he really has some racist feelings like many people have. He just made a huge mistake to angrily express those feelings.
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Geesh. I don't blame some people for not keeping up with that nonsense. What other groups have gone through these name transformations? Not many.
Instead of focusing on what TO call us, folks should just worry about what NOT TO call us as a group: NIGGER, NIGGA, COLORED, PORCH MONKEYS, etc.
And when white people ask "what do you want to be called" I tell them to call me by my name.
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