How come I almost never see black women at bars?

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by FeeFee

I suggest that you find other places in your area to patronize. I'm sure all of the Black women aren't holed up in their homes all the time. You can always find some Black women and ask them where they go to hang out.

If I find other places to patronize, it still doesn't change the fact I almost never see any black women at mainstream bar/clubs/whatever (in STL). None of the black women I know are into that stuff, except one.

I wish there were other St. Louisans on here....I'm not crazy (ok I am), but I"m not blind.

[FAB*SpiceySpice]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

If I find other places to patronize, it still doesn't change the fact I almost never see any black women at mainstream bar/clubs/whatever (in STL). None of the black women I know are into that stuff, except one.

I wish there were other St. Louisans on here....I'm not crazy (ok I am), but I"m not blind.

Ok I never lived in STL, but I lived in Columbia, which isn't far and I've spent an enormous amount of time out and about in STL. I have to say I agree with you, especially if you're at some of the places in West County, but also down in Soulard, The Landing, or the Loop. I dunno, I've been out in places all over STL, and it seems to me like you do have a valid point about this.

Btw D, have you ever been to Lafayette Pub? I went there once and that was definitely an...interesting (?) experience. I actually saw a girl have sex with a guy in a bar, standing right in front of me...

Also, this thread has really made me miss Big Daddy's, McGurks, Harpos, and all the other places I used to frequent and I'm jealous that you're in STL and I'm not.

/hijack

[sigmadiva]

I have to agree that it just depends on what establishment you choose to patronize. Here in Houston, there are a number of bars / clubs, and they do seem to be separated by race. Most places in downtown and an area called the 'Richmond strip' tend to be more White / Asian oriented. There are a number of Latino / Tejano clubs and bars around town, and of course you have your majority Black clubs and bars. It just depends on where *you* want to go.

I also have to agree that most Black bars / clubs / lounges tend to be more dance oriented (music, DJ, dance floor), where the White ones tend to be more stand around and drink.

Just to add, I too would not live in an area with 'plantation' in the name.

[VandalSquirrel]

I just drove my friends home from The Plantation and it appears the name is going to be The Plant from now on, and the logo is someone "Planted" on a bar stool drinking a beer. The nickname remains the same, but the meaning has changed. There used to be a sign on the roof, but I can't remember if it is there anymore.

Oh yeah Dionysus, there were Black people there but no women, just guys. I made sure to look just for you. I'm going to keep an eye out this weekend since it is homecoming and I'll have a tally for you

[Still BLUTANG]

my bar experiences are limited to going with white coworkers (and being one of the only black females there) AND/OR going with a group of black girlfriends and us being the only ones there... no shortage of black men tho... but that's a totally different topic.

i agree with the poster that said the smoke in hair smell is a deterrent. I would only go to a bar on an evening where i planned to wash my hair / get it done the next day anyway.

i prefer lounges on the rare ocassion i go out, and i LOVE drinking at home.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I just drove my friends home from The Plantation and it appears the name is going to be The Plant from now on, and the logo is someone "Planted" on a bar stool drinking a beer. The nickname remains the same, but the meaning has changed. There used to be a sign on the roof, but I can't remember if it is there anymore.

Oh yeah Dionysus, there were Black people there but no women, just guys. I made sure to look just for you. I'm going to keep an eye out this weekend since it is homecoming and I'll have a tally for you

We have homecoming this weekend too.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by FAB*SpiceySpice

Ok I never lived in STL, but I lived in Columbia, which isn't far and I've spent an enormous amount of time out and about in STL. I have to say I agree with you, especially if you're at some of the places in West County, but also down in Soulard, The Landing, or the Loop. I dunno, I've been out in places all over STL, and it seems to me like you do have a valid point about this.

Btw D, have you ever been to Lafayette Pub? I went there once and that was definitely an...interesting (?) experience. I actually saw a girl have sex with a guy in a bar, standing right in front of me...

Also, this thread has really made me miss Big Daddy's, McGurks, Harpos, and all the other places I used to frequent and I'm jealous that you're in STL and I'm not.

/hijack

I am a big fan of The Loop, Westport, and CWE/Manchester. I have hanged out everywhere except for Soulard, South County, North St. Louis, and East St. Louis. I only go to Soulard for Mardi Gras (not a lot of black women at Mardi Gras either, lol) . South county has too many of those "Rusty Pick-Up Inn" sort of places. East St. Louis is probably where you find the black women that Nelly raps about. I know absolutely nothing about the places in North St. Louis.

I have never been to Lafayette, but I heard a lot of crazy stories about it, one of them being someone once pulled out a gun there.

I've never been to McGurk's either, but I heard a LOT of positive things about it. I want to go there one day.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

I've never been to McGurk's either, but I heard a LOT of positive things about it. I want to go there one day.

Awww, I've even been there! We also like O'Connell's and Dressels.

I'm a black gal, and I like bars. I'm usually there with guy friends, though, who are all white.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I'm a black gal, and I like bars. I'm usually there with guy friends, though, who are all white.

"Therein lies the rub," or something like it.

Most bars are predominently white male, for a number of reasons that are boring to discuss in a thread such as this.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Awww, I've even been there! We also like O'Connell's and Dressels.

I'm a black gal, and I like bars. I'm usually there with guy friends, though, who are all white.

Exactly where is McGurk's? South St. Louis?