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Old 10-04-2006, 07:45 PM
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You just named three people. There are thousands of militant muslims. No comparison.
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Old 10-04-2006, 07:53 PM
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I'm not familiar with Randall Terry or Eric Rudolph, but as a resident of Kansas I'm aware of Fred Phelps. How many "Christians" of all those that profess in the world are like that though, less than a percent?
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You just named three people. There are thousands of militant muslims. No comparison.
Uh . . . really?
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:06 PM
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Three people who lead groups of people. My point is, in terms of mainstream Christianity, they are a radical fringe group. They reflect mainstream Christianity as well as the islamic extremists reflect mainstream Islam.
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:13 PM
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Three people who lead groups of people. My point is, in terms of mainstream Christianity, they are a radical fringe group. They reflect mainstream Christianity as well as the islamic extremists reflect mainstream Islam.
Right!!

The tendency for people to say "oh, those Christians are the exception and not the rule" reflects the double standard. Muslim is one of the largest (if not the largest???) organized religions in the world. Yet, it has grown a reputation of being violent and anti-American based on a series of events from the past 5-10 years. People don't say "those Islamic extremists aren't the rule."
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:28 PM
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There are extremists for everything...however, I think you'd have a very difficult time showing that Christian extremists commit acts of violence even close to the level that islamic extremists do
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:59 PM
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There are extremists for everything...however, I think you'd have a very difficult time showing that Christian extremists commit acts of violence even close to the level that islamic extremists do
But violence is not the only standard. Think of corruption, of abuse, etc. Violence is just more in your face.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:15 PM
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I was wondering what blueangel was talking about. I couldn't find his/her Q'uran post anywhere in this thread.
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I agree that there are extremists in many religions. All one has to do is look at the Crusades, or the Salem Witch trials.... hence, why I'm not a fan of organized religion.

However, and maybe Opi can chime in here... what is one to think about Islam when the final words of Mohammed to his disciples was, "I was ordered to fight all men until they say, "There is no god but Allah."

and, in Qur'an :39 it says, "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." and "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief --non Muslims) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone."

and in Ishaq :587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak and faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violenty before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight unti our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

Perhaps I'm not reading these quotes correctly, but it doesn't seem like a faith of tolerance and peace. Opi.. could you please clarify?
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:43 PM
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Yeah, but you're straying from terrorism to just general immoral acts. Nobody is molesting children because they are acting out their beliefs. Its a problem sure, but I don't think its directly related to Catholic faith.
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