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Old 09-28-2006, 11:01 PM
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I wanted a record of everyone's thoughts on the matter, that's all. People can read them, then decide if they want to post.
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I don't understand the goal of the pro and con threads. What good does it do to have people proclaim themselves to be pro or con ai? And, why do we have to separate the two into separate threads that cannot co-exist? This is the exact point of my threads. Debate is frowned upon. Why aren't people allowed to debate the issue? Why do we have to segregate them?
See my quote above.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:10 PM
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See my quote above.
So, you're just wanting a roll call of posters? What purpose does that serve other than to pre-judge the validity of a poster's views?
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:12 PM
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It's asking the wrong question. It's like saying "are you pro or con abortion?" Whether you support a woman's right to have an abortion if she chooses is a completely different question from whether you are pro or con abortion -- you can be completely opposed to abortion but still support another woman's right to have one.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:16 PM
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It's asking the wrong question. It's like saying "are you pro or con abortion?" Whether you support a woman's right to have an abortion if she chooses is a completely different question from whether you are pro or con abortion -- you can be completely opposed to abortion but still support another woman's right to have one.
then post in both threads. Some folks already have.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:15 PM
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I don't think it pre-judges anything. The people posting to these threads are already on record as being for or against AI. All someone has to do is read through the postings on GC to find out that information. I'm just putting in all in one place for everyone to see.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:17 PM
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I don't think it pre-judges anything. The people posting to these threads are already on record as being for or against AI. All someone has to do is read through the postings on GC to find out that information. I'm just putting in all in one place for everyone to see.
Why does anyone care whether or not someone is pro-AI or con-AI unless they are using it in the context of determining the validity of the post? Why do we need a thread stating our opinion on the subject? Why not allow discussion on the topic? That's the point.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:22 PM
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There is no 'valid' or 'invallid' argument. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. That is the only point.

You want to go ahead and start a thread to argue the point of pro vs con? Go ahead. As long as it doesn't get personal, the thread will stay put.
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:27 AM
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I don't understand the goal of the pro and con threads. What good does it do to have people proclaim themselves to be pro or con ai? And, why do we have to separate the two into separate threads that cannot co-exist? This is the exact point of my threads. Debate is frowned upon. Why aren't people allowed to debate the issue? Why do we have to segregate them?
Exactly. I don't understand what will be accomplished. I don't even understand why it is necessary. It seems even more divisive and nasty than some of the other threads that have been deleted by the moderators. But, that is just my opinion and others are free to disagree.
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:42 AM
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Exactly. I don't understand what will be accomplished. I don't even understand why it is necessary. It seems even more divisive and nasty than some of the other threads that have been deleted by the moderators. But, that is just my opinion and others are free to disagree.
Someone wants a "list" of Pro-AI people and Anti-AI people, so that when a PNAI comes on GC, and someone gives them advice (good bad or indifferent), we can point out "She's on the Anti-AI list, don't listen to her" or "She's Pro-AI, take her advice".

It also gives the mods a list of whose comments to seek out to delete. (Yes, I said it. Waiting for it to be deleted. Go ahead.)
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