Penn State IFC & Panhellenic Ban "Open" Parties

[PhiMuGoddess]

This is nothing new. Phi Mu social event paperwork requires a guest list.

[blueGBI]

The parties have all been list for a couple years but there were always ways around it.

Now, all of the freshmen will have to find friends with apts to drink on the weekend if they can't talk/flash their way onto the list. It's sad because I remember FIJI Island and a bunch of other parties that were must-go and open. Oh well.

[EE-BO]

Old news, but critically important.

Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

Old news, but critically important.

Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by madmax

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

Not only that, at Penn State there are a ridiculous amount of outsiders (high schoolers, townies, people from other colleges) coming to party just because it's a big school in the middle of BFP.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

It is like your said, your experience is hardly a reliable national statistic.

I bet Deltalumni has a pie chart on his bedroom ceiling with the exact breakdowns. He could probably settle it.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by madmax

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

Getting rather late here, so I am not going to do a full blown search.
But a down and dirty one found this:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/aboutsoc/baer.html

I have rather good feelings that there are more....

[madmax]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Getting rather late here, so I am not going to do a full blown search.
But a down and dirty one found this:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/aboutsoc/baer.html

I have rather good feelings that there are more....

It is one example out of thousands. Is that your idea of a majority?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by madmax

It is one example out of thousands. Is that your idea of a majority?

Madmax,
Please check my posting for I said nothing of that kind......but if I am going to spend time finding sites like that, perhaps you should spend some time finding the others.........